Originally Posted by dyna mo

My point is about your comment that socialism = big government. not the efficacy of any one social program.

again, my point is thus: America has a long and rich history of embracing social programs, they are woven into the fabric of the USA. A social program does not necessarily require huge/bloated bureaucracies to administer.

i'm not the guy championing social security here, i used it as an example of the USA embracing big social programs

i'm not the guy championing free higher ed here, i used it as en example of how a social program wouldn't neccesarily require an accompanying big bureacracy.

i'm not a socialist. I specifically cited what i like most about Bernie and that's his promise to reform campaign finance and his view of ISIS/foreign policy.