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Old 02-03-2016, 04:06 PM  
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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 View Post
I see it this way; Ukrain is another fucked up Broke country that will get a lot of European money and than screw us (Europe). The European politicians might want the Ukrain to joun to annoy Russia, the civilians that pay taxes aren't happy that another poor corrupt country joins the EU. I think Ukrain is even worse than Greece and will cost much more money and the only thing we get back is thieves.

"United States diplomats have described Ukraine under Presidents Kuchma and Yushchenko as a kleptocracy, according to Wikileaks cables.[6]"
Greece's problem is they cooked the books. The EU is paying for all the pension promises and social programs for the Greeks. Greece is basically noncompetitive and the population is lazy. It is very hard to get fired in that country.

Ukraine is corrupt because of its history with Russia. The politicians are basically Russian on the Kremlins payroll. As the move to EU happens they will continue to move to a more western leaning government. Which should in turn help to open things up from the country.

Ukrainians will be a positive addition to Europe. They don't go around with the attitude like they are the best. They are willing to work and move the country forward. There has just been constant pillaging from the outside. In fact there is no guarantee that the EU won't be worst for them.
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