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Originally Posted by MetaMan
Greece's problem is they cooked the books. The EU is paying for all the pension promises and social programs for the Greeks. Greece is basically noncompetitive and the population is lazy. It is very hard to get fired in that country.
Ukraine is corrupt because of its history with Russia. The politicians are basically Russian on the Kremlins payroll. As the move to EU happens they will continue to move to a more western leaning government. Which should in turn help to open things up from the country.
Ukrainians will be a positive addition to Europe. They don't go around with the attitude like they are the best. They are willing to work and move the country forward. There has just been constant pillaging from the outside. In fact there is no guarantee that the EU won't be worst for them.
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Are you serious? A postive addition to the EU? All the broke people willt go to countries like Holland cause the wellfare and pensions are much better and people want to profit. The coming years we will pay a lot of money to Ukrain and most will disappear. I still see that Dutch Fool Hans Van Baalen saying the Ukrain could join the EU, he only said that to get a good job in Brussels. At that time you saw the cival war coming. Our politicians only want to fuck Russia. The people who made the referendum happen in Holland are acused they must be "friends of Putin". That is what this is al about, if you want a referendum, you must be a fan of Putin. But in fact, we have seen all the trouble in the EU and everybody sees we don't want more EU. The more EU, the more votes will be going to righyt wing politial parties. And they are growing fast thanks to the refugees and countries like Ukrain. So the Ukrain already are destroying the EU, cause the people don't want the Ukrain to join, but everytime the EU politicians ignore the people. At least Putin did someting in Ukrain. It was just like the war in Yugoslavia, Bosnia, the EU looked, but didn't do much. Now again in Syria, the EU started taking action after the Russians did.
Best for Ukrain is to stay independent and do business with Russia and the EU. I expect more Russian actions when Ukrain joins the EU, and that isn't worth it.