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Originally Posted by crucifissio
I do not have to be jealous of anything to ask a valid question. I honestly see no difference between the US founding fathers and ISIS....
I did not ask about americans today did I? I asked specifically about the founding fathers, so your argument of 250 years of evolution is invalid...
concentrate on the question: what is the difference between the US founding fathers and ISIS (not americans today and ISIS)  |
Alas, it's you who fails to remain on point. Way up at the top, here's the question posed:
"Is there a difference between ISIS and the founding fathers of the USA"
That generation conducted no wars against the Indians and stole no land. Slavery had been abolished or discontinued in the Northern States, about the first place in the world where the process of emancipation took place. They stood for religious and personal freedom, risking their "lives, their property, and their sacred honor" to fight for the liberty of their fellow colonists.
But you claim the Chinese were victimized by the founding fathers. That is, people who weren't there. You claim the founders afforded the Indians no respect and stole from them. The opposite is true. The constitutional convention actually considered the organizational form of the Iroquois Confederation and discussed in in planning for a new republic. That generation stole nothing. They raped nobody. They captured no slaves. They went to church a lot and declared national days of Thanksgiving and other days of fasting and prayer, but they left it to individuals to work out how that was to happen. At the tail end, and against considerable debate about whether Congress had the power to expand the nation, Jefferson purchased Louisiana from Napoleon and sent Lewis and Clark peaceably to explore, trade and make friends with the Indians, which they did. Whatever sins happened, it was a later generation that committed them.
The Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776. The Constitution was adopted thirteen years later, in 1789. The generation that lived during those years, the foundational years of the United States of America, produced the "founding fathers". They founded it, and so naturally, they are called "founding".
You have zilch facts on your side. If you did, you'd trot them out. There is nothing that connects ISIS and the Patriots in any meaningful sense.
Enough of this troll.