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Old 02-11-2016, 12:12 PM  
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But seriously...why would you want to bother with either of these party's? The two of them are responsible for what our country has become: 20 trillion in debt, wars, occupying other country's, spying on our own citizens, more people in prison in the U.S. than any other country in the history of mankind, massive govt. corruption, etc.
You seem to complain a lot.

We've always been in debt. It goes up every year. And every year and we are like "oh my god". We started at a billion dollars with Reagan, then Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Obama. No matter who we vote into office next, the debt will climb.

Wars? What wars are we currently involved in? Seems we have moved out of Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't recall us invading any countries under Obama. Yeah, we are bombing ISIS, but whatever; There is always some kind of hotspot or another.

Occupying other countries? Which ones. Did I miss that? I mean, I read the newspapers every day. So let's discuss.... Foreign countries with the most amount of US troops are.... In order.... Japan (48k), Germany (37k), and South Korea (27k). I guess you could say we occupied Japan and Germany in the 1940s, and Korea in the 1950s, but I would hardly call this an occupation.

Spying on our own citizens? Yeah, that's new, right? I used to work for Ma Bell in the 1980s managing a directory assistance office which was housed in a regional switching office - and FBI had two full time agents stationed there. They weren't there for "office security". LOL.

More people in prison? Yeah, and a low crime rate too. I am okay with that.

Massive government corruption? I must have missed that in the news too. No one in my home town has been arrested for corruption. What corruption is going on and why isn't anyone being arrested? Do we really have a problem with corruption? Can you show me were we have a problem with corruption?

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If you even do vote...please think about doing some research on the candidates you are thinking about. And then explore other options too.
You might find a candidate out there who is more in line with your thoughts.
I'll be voting for anyone other than Trump so that's that.

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If everybody just keeps voting Democrat and Republican then nothing will ever change for the better.
Somewhere along the line a portion of our citizens have become bitter and angry, and upset about everything. Some people are talking about "how bad things are". Things were bad at the end of the Bush White House, and in the beginning of the Obama administration. You can't argue things were horrible at the end of the Bush administration, and things are obviously much better now.

I think things are pretty good right now. Unemployment is down, housing is creeping back up, construction is moving forward. Our economy is recovering, we not at war with anyone.... And more people than ever before have healthcare.

What more can we ask for?
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