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Old 03-21-2016, 04:40 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
you cant have it both ways paul...

you cant produce with high cost domestic workers AND expect people to buy expensive goods domestic and abroad<---take note of this last word
Then carry on losing jobs.

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you cant expect to raise taxes on imports AND other countries not raising taxes on you
Taxes only apply to countries that sell a lot more than they buy and not selling a resource like oil.

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even if you put in place trade agreements and you make small countries bow down, you can not force their population to buy your expensive shit...on the other hand they need absolutely nothing made in USA...the world can do without american apparel <---they will just get taxed to shit in retaliation and companies like them...
If they need nothing of ours, we buy nothing of theirs.

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your argument basically boils down to:
prices will rise, sales will not drop...
You missed jobs will rise, taxes and debt will lower.

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the west is becoming more and more equal...at least the bottom 99%...means of production is money...money is more and more in the hands of a few...tell me paul, when most of the population is equal and the means of production is in the hands of a few what political system is that?
Equal by dropping down to a lower level and a few remaining at the top, is how communism works.

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hint: it begins with the letter c...and ends with ommunism...

what could that be?
Westerners will not accept it.

I agree that if we carry on this route the tiny few will be very wealthy and most the rest will have enough to keep the system turning. They won't have the wealth they have now because most jobs will have gone East. Or be done by machine.

So how does the 1% fuel consumerism without sharing more of what they have and looking after the less fortunate?

The Right thinks the less fortunate should starve while importing more of them to share in the rests wealth.

The Left say borrow and borrow again to repay the previous debt and add more on top.

Neither can continue. The 1% 95% rely on the West to consume their goods. Without Western Markets corporations die. It's these markets that create Corporations, Wealth and jobs. At the moment, the wealth is going to a select few and the jobs East.

You say it won't change. Think that through until you have so few customers, you're on food stamps or begging on the street. Along with millions more.

And anyone who says they have other markets. Tell us where they are and what % of sales they represent.
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