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Old 04-01-2016, 07:29 PM  
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Originally Posted by kane View Post
The subsidizing is very simple. McDonald's actually has things in their employee handbook that encourage employees to sign up for government programs like food stamps and help with childcare. They also have people that work for them that will help you out with this process.

So, let's say Jane the average young woman gets herself knocked up and has a kid. She then gets a job at McDonald's. She can't raise that kid on that wage so she signs up for various government assistance programs. She is likely going to qualify for most of these assistance programs. So now she is getting food stamps, help paying for daycare, reduced rent and potentially other things like free health insurance. With the benefits she is likely going to be able to live a lifestyle of someone making $12-$15 per hour or more as opposed to $7.25 per hour.

If she were to take a different job where she could jump up to say $9 an hour she very well may no longer qualify for all these assistance programs so she doesn't she stays at McDonald's which benefits from having an employee that has been there a while, knows how things work and is (hopefully) reliable which is better for them than having to go through the cost of hiring and training new people.

The definition of subsidize is: to aid or promote (as a private enterprise) with public money <subsidize soybean farmers> <subsidize public transportation>. This is exactly what is going on here. If there were no government assistance programs people would likely strike, unionize or at the very least demand more money and I think companies that generally pay minimum wage would be forced to raise their wages, but because these programs exists companies can pay less if there are complaints they can show their employees how to suckle from the government teat.
I don't see how raising minimum wage to $15/hr resolves this in any way... you are making an assumption that she gets $15/hr and so no longer needs government assistance?

but that's only if she keeps her job, or even gets one in the first place... and that's a big IF...

for example, your Jane is lets say 18 years old, straight out of high school, knocked up like you said... with zero experience... and wants to work at McDonalds? do you think McDonalds will hire her for $15/hr or would they rather hire some 20 year old who already has some fast food experience and doesn't have a kid (=more reliable), etc? or perhaps they will buy a self checkout machine? or setup a call center to take orders in another state?

also, at $15/hr there will suddenly be more people interested in work, all the housewives for example who couldn't be bothered to work for $7/hr, at $15/hr will enter the work force... so there will be fierce competition and so the bar for getting a job will be raised...

so, chances that your "Jane" will end up with a job, are pretty slim... and so, as a result, the cost to taxpayer will be even higher than before...
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