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Originally Posted by Wizzo
Maybe I can't help clarify.
First, JuicyAds is ad network, we don't own any of the sites in our network.
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No, I get it. It's a "network" so there is no legal liability on the behalf of Juicy for selling bot traffic.
Similar to how Napster wasn't liable for selling memberships to a "network" of computer users trading music for free.
I used to buy spots there years ago (sold most of my sites off now), and the sites used bot impressions to inflate the value of any given spot. The site to site stats variances were laughable. If you buy a spot in a site, you would get the exact same daily hits, regardless of volume of impressions. And even worse, if you buy a RON, for some strange reason, you get 4 times as many hits in the same site, because you are now paying per hit, so webmasters pump more hits into your spot. They are using sophisticated scripts to manage traffic flow. Fake impressions are impossible to tell on the side of the advertiser.
I just can't believe year after year Juicy gets awards for brokering websites that sell spots that have fake impressions? The websites in your lineup never have real organic traffic, most are bot impressions with a small % of pumped in real human traffic, and the advertiser is paying for the small amount of hits he gets from that tiny % of real humans.
Example:
1) Site owner creates free adult site and automates it with 20,000 bot impressions per day, with a + or - variance of 5% daily, so it "appears" to have real human organic traffic flow.
2) He also purchases or sends some back links to that same site, so there might be a 100 or so real human surfers roaming around it.
3) He automates a robo hitter to hit the spot 100 times a day, again with a variance to give the illusion that it's real traffic.
4) He places the site in Juicy and advertises spot for sale, showing 100 hits a day and charges $ 25 for it.
5) Advertiser buys the spot, and what happens? The spot gets 3 hits a day?? But why? Well, according to Juicy, "your ad is not attractive enough, please make a better one"
Advertiser doesn't know that the site owner has now turned off the bot hits on the banner spot and advertiser is scraping hits off the small amount of real human traffic the site really has.
My favorite thing was buying a spot that has 5,000 impressions a day and getting about 40 hits a day.... nice spot, but, then, after a few days of very steady hits, out of nowhere, the spot gets 3 hits a day, yet, the impressions remain the same. It's obvious at that point the webmaster is pumping in too much real traffic and thins it out by adding more bot impressions which save the webmaster money, and because you can't get a refund on sites that maintain the same amount of impressions, you are simply fucked.
So my 40 hit per day ad spot is only getting 3 hits a day now, because my ad needs to be prettier? LOL Nice one.
Yes, I know, it's a network and you are not liable. The shield of immunity. How did that work out for Napster?