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Originally Posted by American Psycho
exactly what work do you entrust to offshure staff for $3hr. data entry, but what for?
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The workers submit videos to tube sites, that's it. They open a browser, fill out the upload form, hit submit.
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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn
feel like I'm calling you out a lot lately which is not my deliberate intent, you're one of my fav posters here due to your insight and willingness to share info about biz. you also crack me up (70's soap dialogue as most recent) on the daily. 'nuff respect, hope you know that.
that said, wtf is up with valuing work based on living wage of nation of residence? prob super-sensitive to this due to working with EE cammers who are constantly devalued for no reason other than location, but either way this is total bullshit. Work is work, value is value.
would you do your best work for $3 per hour? would you consider that fair?
I live on an island where the average wage for men and women who bust their ass day in and day out (working far harder physically than anyone here who does adult for a living, including me) cleaning rooms -not easy- and doing road work under the blazing sun is $6.25 per hour. Across the board. One of the few places I've encountered where there is parity between male/female quote unquote 'unskilled labor' pay rates. Unconvinced this is a victory.
I hate laundry and recently moved into a bomb place that lacks that facility. Turns out that a sister of a friend runs a laundry where you can pass her $20 to do the washer-to-dryer stuff for you. She's in a grey area here legally but is working her azz off while she can. Walked in and she had added fabric softener and had everything folded. Paired socks that hadn't been matched since I moved in with my guy.
My laundry fairy, but either way tipped her an extra $40 for her work, for what it meant to me/my guy time-wise in not having to do it. She did something I didn't have the time to do/monitor as I was taking some time from earning to enjoy life and do my own work, was not charity.
refuse to benefit unfairly from econ inequities where I can.
My point; pay peeps what your time is worth. Guessing more than Upwork rates.
Peace and joy and keep killing it with your business.
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No worries. I understand where you are coming from! But let me point out a few things (and this is for Jel and Mopecki, too):
* If a worker in a particular field is earning x amount then why should I pay more than that? If the going rate for cleaning your apartment in your city is $100 then why pay $200? Sure, maybe you would pay a little more for a good housekeeper you can trust but 2x? I wouldn't, maybe you would.
* My workers are simple data entry workers. Meaning, they open a browser, go to a website, fill out the upload form and hit submit. Really hard work. LOL PLUS I write the Titles, Tags and Descriptions myself since their English is bad so I am already doing half the work for them!
* The reason Western companies use out sourced labor is because of taxes, insurance and other costs in the US that makes a $10 an hour employee more like a $18 an hour employee due to the above. So if there are places in the world who will do the same work for 1/5 of the cost guess what? LOL
* The average hourly rate for what I need (in The Philippines) is around $1 per hour. As an American I feel guilty as hell paying human beings such a lowly wage so I pay them 3 times what the going rate is now. PLUS all employees get Birthday and end of year Bonuses. My workers have been with me for as long as 5 years now and they love me. Why? Because I pay more than most, I hardly ever communicate with them, and the work is easy and simple AND allows them to have other jobs while files are uploading. PLUS (I bet) they themselves are outsourcing their work to a fellow Filipino, thus making $80 a week for doing absolutely nothing. LOL
* Having said all of the above, the day is coming (soon) when I will pay for a custom script to do what they do, therefore eliminating 90% of my labor costs.
Adapt or die.