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Old 07-30-2016, 08:44 AM  
Joe Obenberger
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His son died fighting for the US, and Trump constantly shits on his son. How much Xanax would you have to take to feel better if Trump was doing this to you and your dead son?
Mark, a moment's thought will convince you that this just isn't true.

Trump has said not a word that I've seen critical of Muslims in general. Not the dead Muslim officer, not his father, and not Muslims as members of a faith. If you think I'm wrong, point me to a quote.

For several days after 911, commercial air travel was halted as a safety precaution. This was intended to be prophylactic, to stop anything in play. As an air traveler, it would have been unreasonable for me to take this to impugn me personally.

Trump aims to quarantine American from radical Islamists because of the threat of murder of innocents at their hands. It would be cool if we could identify them by physical characteristics, or by readily-ascertainable objective criteria but that's impossible. He proposes quarantining a larger group that can be better identified and ascertained. The morality of such a technique is open for debate, a debate which would hinge, I think, on the practical ability of such a quarantine to actually identify threat and reduce terrorist murders and the pain and death that it might prevent, weighed against the harmful consequences of such a quarantine. It would be the same calculus used in public health medicine to judge the prudence of a quarantine aimed at limiting the spread of a disease. Trump identified his proposal as a temporary measure until better determiners of terror risk could be identified, a stopgap measure, a tourniquet. The temporary nature of the measure is also part of the calculus appropriate to judge its morality.

You've said that this really about defecating on the memory of the lost captain and his father and muslims in general. If that's true, it should not be difficult for you to identify Trump statements which, in their context, are critical of Muslim people in general. I don't believe that your post is accurate. There is a great much exaggeration and distortion of Trump's position these days - coming out of a very scared Establishment that is quite afraid of losing power to the populist voting revolution that explains Trump's success.
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