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Joe Obenberger · 07-30-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Israel built a high cement wall on its border on the West Bank, there is a heavily patrolled border fence on all the land borders of that country and the navy patrols the seacoast.

There are still terrorist attacks in Israel -- so the border isolation theory is just Horse Shit. And this was proven in the last century with the Berlin Wall. The Great Wall of China did not stop the Mongol invaders either. No border is invincible any rational man knows that.

That is historical fact.

Deportation might work maybe Mr. Trump has a final solution in mind.

I have managed to be in the exact places of two terrorists attack, in Tel Aviv and Nice,FR prior to their occurrence (by weeks and moths respectively) so I have a good grasp of this danger. But short of having used tactical nuclear short range missiles two years ago to evaporate ISIS in Syria and Iraq and in the process kill 200K or 300K innocent civilians -- there is no real solution other than to roll up in a ball and die.

To save the world from Naziism, the Allies had no problems slaughtering tens of millions of civilians - mostly Germans - in the Forties. Two hundred or three hundred thousand civilian lives in Tokyo Hamburg and Dresden, and lesser numbers in Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Berlin, and other cities didn't matter to our leaders when it's total war. The indiscriminate use of poorly aimed V weapons at England was less effective, but came from the same thinking. I've never been comfortable with those civilian deaths, and there is little question that had the war gone the other war, a most serious case of war crimes might have been prosecuted against our leaders, including Churchill.

When does it become immoral to take means to protect American, French, and Belgian lives? I don't think we reach that point by restricting immigration, that looks too much like a justifiable quarantine akin to medical quarantine to offend my morality. If we could keep the Zika virus out of the US by banning the entry of new mosquitos to these shores, I'd do it. People are not mosquitos, and the issue of quarantine has a moral dimension when people are involved. The proposal here is for a temporary ban on immigration. I don't know that I'd do it if I had the power. But I can't call it immoral on its face.