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Old 07-30-2016, 10:49 AM  
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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger View Post
Just to be technically accurate, the language you're citing comes from the XIV Amendment and applies to the states - not the federal government. The same result however comes from interpretation of the Vth, in many if not all cases. No dispute that once an immigrant has landed, he has a due process right to a hearing. But that's not a right to remain. It's a right to fight the issue of legality before deportation. And in the end, if he's illegal, he can be deported. Your point is that no one is trying to deport those present here illegally. With or without a fair process. That is a legitimate concern. What good is a law if no one will enforce it? And that's the divide between Trump and the Democrats. He promises to enforce the law better. The Democrats mumble platitudes and argue tear-jerking stories about anchor babies, and about illegal immigrants who go into the military and serve, come out, commit forcible felonies and protest that military service protects a right to remain here forever no matter how many felonies they commit. But in the end, the Democrats are preaching disrespect for the laws, and thereby undermine law in general, giving people one more rationale to pick and chose what laws to obey.
I'm a very conservative Democrat, and socially liberal, so you're preaching to the choir.

I'm a Gang of 8 bill supporter with the addition of strengthened borders. Make illegals here who deserve to be legal, legal, quickly. Document them, get them paying into the systems ASAP, everyone else deport, first ones to go are the ones on public assistance & homeless. After the border is strengthened send all the illegals in jail back to where they came from! Process the backlog and clean house, while putting money into the border. Pretty simple.
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