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Old 08-02-2016, 02:54 AM  
Sarn
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Originally Posted by celandina View Post
Not fascist but Nazi... But that does not make any difference, the Russian perception is still the same ( except in the pre war Soviet era when Stalin firmly starved Ukraine into submission) Ukraine was always taken by Russians as the "fifth column with a dagger" in the soft underbelly of Russia. This of course is NOT without a reason. Thorough the history this always was the case. Now the for EU faction ( read in Russia- for Germany, for NATO for USA) has won for now and is sharpenning the knives again. That is why Putin wants all territories with predominantly Russian population back to mother Russia.... No different then any other indepndence movements like the Scotts, the Irish, the Basks, the Slovaks and the list goes on.
Stalin was not Russian, Stalin Georgian(Caucasus).
Russia did not submission Ukraine Russia has begun in Kiev - "Kievan Rus".
starved was not only ukraine it be in russia too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...921%E2%80%9322
Ukraine's independence from 1991 year, and it was not a fight. We gave it to them this independence. And yes Russians in Ukraine have the right to independence of Ukraine - from anti-Russian neonazi state
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