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Originally Posted by klinton
that type of thinking leads to all problems in this world. and usually noone invades country to "improve it" - usually main goal is to exploit it or make it obedient..eventual "impromevent" is only side effect.
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The essence of every state is exploitation since the state has monopoly on violence on a certain geographic area. Politicians don't kill us and take our possessions just because in the long term we'll bring them more $. That's why you work 35-40 years and give 50% of your earnings to the state.
And since the state is inevitable (for now), isn't it better to be ruled by those who have superior intellect and culture? You get way more for your cash. Politicians in my country are all cringeworthy, they all look and behave like they're product of incest. I wouldn't mind being ruled by someone who is more educated and talented and there are those kind of people in the West.
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and we all know how ended "improving" countries from tyrranies to democracies - Libya and Iraq are the best examples...also Syria, where "improvement" is in progress
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I can agree on that, but It can't be compared to history. Foreign politicians that ruled in colonies had different incentives than modern 4-year-term politicians. When you own something, you treat it way better than something you just rented.
I can't believe someone from ex-Yugoslavia has the audacity to shit on states like USA or GB. You can nuke us today and nothing will change in the world. We make no inventions, no science, no philosophy (except that Slovenian troll Zizek). Every man who left a mark on society had emigrated from Balkans region. Even today brain drain is huge, people that stay are high time-preference (75 IQ) savages.