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Old 10-07-2016, 10:45 AM  
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so you prefer when a politician is lying and giving false hope
some hope is better than no hope...


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We've created fifteen million jobs since 2012. Unemployment is under 5%.

If you want things to continue to improve go with Hillary. If you don't like the improvements we've had in the past eight years, if you don't like having a 5% unemployment rate, roll the fucking dice, vote Trump, and pray that having someone in office who has zero experience in politics doesn't result in 10% unemployment like the last time we had a Republican in the White House, with people losing their jobs and houses.

We have this "thing" in the United States where we "want change" even when change is not needed. We do this every four years with the election cycle. We do this because the other side points out mistakes of the current administration in the past four years and says "they fucked up" and "we need change". But take a look at where we were eight years ago when Bush left office, and then compare that to where we are now - Which is better. (I'll give you a hint - eight years ago unemployment was 12% and now it's under 5% - which is better?) We can continue to have improvements or we can close our eyes and walk off a cliff and hope someone with no experience can do better.

The Republican party has completely fucked this up. They keep telling us how bad things are, when they are so obviously better. By doing this they are handing Obama a victory. Instead, the Republican party needs to say "Look how good our Republican Congress has done" and then say "If we had a Republican president, we could have done so much better".
All those statistics only give illusion of things greatly improving, for example take a look at "labor participation rate" which shows percent of adults actually working:



so while the official statistics may show 5% unemployment, the reality is that they don't count the guys that used to make $30+/hr in manufacturing... and now said "fuck this, if I can't make the same $$, I certainly am not going to flip burgers for $8/hr, I'd rather collect unemployment benefits"... (he is not counted, cause he is not looking for work)

... and lets be real, Trump isn't gaining traction because of his offensive jokes, he is gaining traction because many people are frustrated with the status quo, which contradicts your theory of things being great...
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