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Old 10-10-2016, 06:23 AM  
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Originally Posted by klinton View Post
with all respect, but usually you respect more someone that is stable and strong, that can be a partner in business....
Ukraine is Russian area of inluence...it would be suicide for them to leave Ukraine freely for NATO and EU. Most of Ukraine even speak the same language - Russian.....
I dont understand why Ukraine of Yanukovich was that bad for you actually. Basically - you were almost 3 times richer.....
When I see a guy with a surname "Groysman" as Ukraine's prime minister, I think that your country is being robbed even more than Russia under Putin is.
Well, some time ago Eastern Germany and all the pro-Soviet block was under influence of USSR, and they managed to get rid of that. Ukraine wants out. EU does not have the balls to help it properly.

About Yanukovich times. Generally shit went ballistic after Orange revolution, it kinda was meant to be a progressive step, but, for some reason ( that was no deeply studied or discussed ) Yuschenko let Yanokovitch ( Ukrainian Trump ) join the ball. I believe they had something on Yuscheko he had to step out. So, Yanukovich was placed to rule in Ukraine by Putin. It started to remind what they have now in Russia. People did not want to live with that. And now, the hard times, you can not compare poor with dead poor in war. We lack not only elites but also managerial skills our leaders don't have, the will to step aside the corruption path. Basically, Ukraine is a small copy of Russia that wants to distance from Russian influence and is trying to wear new schemes to approach EU.

In general, all the Budapest Memorandum parties are generally traitors. This is where it was fucked initially.
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