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Originally Posted by Jel
lefties will never get it - it's why they still can't understand Brexit. That's not a dig at lefties as such - many of my friends are lefties, and I have zero problem with any of them. The 'problem' as such, is that dare I say it, they (some of them, by no means all) try a bit hard to be *too* intellectual, in every facet of their thinking, and sometimes can't see the wood for the trees.
Carnegie was pretty spot on in his observation that everyone has a need to feel important - not in a 'bow to me' way, but that they have meaning... for too long politics (for sure in the UK, and obviously from what I read online, the US also) has made many feel unimportant. That's the very crux of the problem, the rest (cronyism etc) is merely icing on the shit cake (Hai CS!). Those people are so desperate for change that they'll do anything, even risk Trump over Hillary with immediate possible downsides, because they've had enough. All the 'clever' lefty media and wannabe intellectuals can do is attribute that to racism, sexism, misogyny, and so on. While no doubt that *is* part of it for certain chavs and trailer trash elements, it's to miss the bigger picture in such a way that I can't really grasp.
I may be way way way off the mark in my guess here, but having gone through a 'rock bottom' myself, I can't help feeling that those voters who are more voting against hillary than for trump, feel kinda the same way. Voting for the status quo is akin to keeping a shit site alive, or sending traffic to the same longtime under-performing sponsor, because you are too scared/apathetic to make/see a real change, even if your stats *completely* tank for a while and you have to start from scratch but with a much better outlook ahead once you have made it through any shitstorm. Not a perfect analogy but meh, as always I'm far too lazy  |
Your statement is way to well thought out for the average Trumper. Not saying you are in any way obviously, I am saying that they are unaware of these processes in their own mind. The left can be too intellectual and judgemental. My first sentence may be just that. However I know very few, maybe no educated well traveled experienced people that don't see the danger in him. I see plenty of people who don't understand history, don't fact check anything and whose critical thinking is extremely poor who see no danger. I think critical thinking is not something that comes naturally. It is taught in certain situations. For me it was running a business and yes college.
I agree with a lot of what you said though. However, Brexit is small potatoes compared to a U.S. leader hinting to jail his opponent, change the laws to muffle the media as well as stoking the flames to suggest the cancellation of shows like SNL only after they speak poorly of him to an excess. The isms are not important compared to those three. Is it rhetoric? Is it worth finding out what he can do with a willing Attorney General, Federal Communication Commission and Supreme Court that owe him? I think it is clear now that millions, yes millions of people will follow him blindly on his word alone. How far will they go? Is it worth finding out?
He has executed the recipe for past atrocities perfectly. Blame others that aren't like you, tell you that the good times will return if you keep THEM out, kick THEM out and take away THEIR rights and the people that disagree cannot be trusted and lie 100% of the time. It is a recipe that works. What is his end game? Is it worth finding out?