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Old 11-09-2016, 09:09 AM  
Paul Markham
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For fucks sake Markham it is not rocket science why Trump is popular in the ex manufaturing regions, not even gfy needs your pretty pictures to illustrate the point.

But what are the solutions ?

Get rid of the computers and the robots ?

Go back to one TV and one car per household ?

The prosperity that the west enjoys today is dependent on low cost economies to create consumer goods. Wishing it was 1950 does not change anything. Adding import duties will not create jobs, it will just make the raw materials for US business more expensive.

With regards to the multi nationals that hoard vast sums off shore, Trump will actually make that problem worse. To tackle the power of the multi nationals you need cooperation between countries, not isolationist policies that disregard the outside world. Apple will always be one step ahead.
If the prosperity you claim the West enjoys trickled down. Trump would have lost.

Adding import duties to countries who sell more than that buy will create more wealth in te West, whether the elite who profit from that share it with others is the debate we have to have.

The poorer establishment supporters think these graphs are the end game. Unless they're stopped they're far from that. The decline of real jobs has only just begun. It's already hitting your income. Eventually, it could make your trade obsolete.

Bringing jobs back in the numbers they once were is never going to happen. What's needed is to bring back production. The profits from those companies have to be shared Expecting Tax Havens to cooperate is waiting for the tide to react to commands of man. Corporation tax is outdated and needs to be abolished. Passing the taxes onto avenues where they can be collected more effectively.

It's not companies like Apple who stay one step ahead. It's greedy bosses who are fucking you to fill their own pockets. Iff the future of our living standards relies on those bosses, the result is revolution. Or we go back to tugging our forelocks as the bosses drive by in their limousines.
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