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Originally Posted by woj
of course it could happen, doesn't your Ohio story show that it could and does happen? maybe it would be noticed, but so what? what "serious consequences" would there be? Turning a blind eye on election fraud isn't exactly an easily provable crime, in the worst case someone would get fired for incompetence... how many people in Ohio went to jail over the election fraud you described?
... and Ohio didn't even decide the election, Bush won 2004 elections 286 to 251 electoral votes, so it was pretty close, but Ohio with 11 electoral votes wasn't enough to swing the election the other way... and that's the whole point of electoral college, with each state having only very limited power, it limits possible corruption and voter fraud, as well as giving each state fair representation in presidential elections...
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I think there is a pretty big difference between doing things that could cause one candidate to get a few hundred additional votes and flat out ignoring laws that could lead to millions of fraudulent votes.
Actually, that is my point in all of this. In both elections involving Bush there were issues. First in Florida then in Ohio. In both cases small amounts of fraud could help the candidate win that state in a very close election. If it were a general election the fraud, in order to be helpful, would have to be on a much larger scale and therefore, in my opinion, easier to see and stop.
As far as Ohio 2 people were arrested, convicted, and sent to jail for rigging the election. Ohio Sec. State Blackwell has been involved in more than a dozen various lawsuits stemming from that election.
On a different note, let's look at my state. Hillary won Oregon easily. I personally know half a dozen people who are Republicans or right-leaning independents who didn't even bother to vote because they didn't think it would matter. Their vote for Trump wasn't going to change the outcome of the election. If it were a general election, their vote would matter and they would be more likely to actually vote. I wonder how many people around the country feel that same way and are not voting because their state is dark red or dark blue.