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mikesouth · 11-26-2016, 03:37 PM

I have to agree with Paul in that porn valley was porn valleys biggest enemy. When they could have nipped the tubes in the bud they didn't because they never valued their content beyond the first 30-60 days.

they thought that DVD sales would outstrip VHS sales (didnt happen) and that streaming would always be low quality they were hit with a near perfect storm.....fast internet became widely available, computers became capable of decoding complex video compression codecs at a reasonable price and consumers abandoned the video store model....across the board. This is not to say tube sites didnt play a huge role in killing the biz...they did.

The industry was poised to make good money via internet delivery but the glut of porn and the porn valley producers willing to sell the rights to material not even a year old for peanuts added to outright content theft by Manwin and others added up to consumers who thought porn should be free...because....well...it was free.

Combining all of those things expedited the demise of Porn Valley and it hurt the online entrepreneurs as well but Porn Valley took the brunt of it.

The real question now is how do we get the marketshare back.

To me the obvious solution is also the most distasteful...the legislature.

For all the "statistics" that Manwin/MindGeek releases about who searches for what and where they live and all of that the on bit of data you never see is the most disturbing....Manwin/MindGeek/Pornhub KNOW with pretty reasonable certainty that one third of their users are under 15 years of age...no thats not a typo....15.

When and if this becomes an issue and the legislature decides that you need to present proof of age to see hardcore material....things will change. Most likely this "proof" would be in the form of a valid credit card...dont argue yes I know that sometimes children under 18 have credit cards....the idea is its not many and its a start and believe me when I tell you that congress has explored this idea more than once. I know because I have spoken about it at length with my US congress person.

Now straight up...if you are an adult how many of you would trust manwin/mindgeek with your credit card info? Even if they swear they will never charge it...

That affects social media as well...age verification is THE best thing that could happen to us guys still hanging on in the industry....Bad as I hate to see government involved in anything.

I expect it's coming.

11-26-2016, 03:37 PM
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I have to agree with Paul in that porn valley was porn valleys biggest enemy. When they could have nipped the tubes in the bud they didn't because they never valued their content beyond the first 30-60 days. they thought that DVD sales would outstrip VHS sales (didnt happen) and that streaming would always be low quality they were hit with a near perfect storm.....fast internet became widely available, computers became capable of decoding complex video compression codecs at a reasonable price and consumers abandoned the video store model....across the board. This is not to say tube sites didnt play a huge role in killing the biz...they did. The industry was poised to make good money via internet delivery but the glut of porn and the porn valley producers willing to sell the rights to material not even a year old for peanuts added to outright content theft by Manwin and others added up to consumers who thought porn should be free...because....well...it was free. Combining all of those things expedited the demise of Porn Valley and it hurt the online entrepreneurs as well but Porn Valley took the brunt of it. The real question now is how do we get the marketshare back. To me the obvious solution is also the most distasteful...the legislature. For all the "statistics" that Manwin/MindGeek releases about who searches for what and where they live and all of that the on bit of data you never see is the most disturbing....Manwin/MindGeek/Pornhub KNOW with pretty reasonable certainty that one third of their users are under 15 years of age...no thats not a typo....15. When and if this becomes an issue and the legislature decides that you need to present proof of age to see hardcore material....things will change. Most likely this "proof" would be in the form of a valid credit card...dont argue yes I know that sometimes children under 18 have credit cards....the idea is its not many and its a start and believe me when I tell you that congress has explored this idea more than once. I know because I have spoken about it at length with my US congress person. Now straight up...if you are an adult how many of you would trust manwin/mindgeek with your credit card info? Even if they swear they will never charge it... That affects social media as well...age verification is THE best thing that could happen to us guys still hanging on in the industry....Bad as I hate to see government involved in anything. I expect it's coming. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.