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Originally Posted by Joshua G
a big win! ...for long oil trains that crash & spill & kill people too!
you libs so clueless.
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Read this you dumb fucking hillbilly.
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Originally Posted by kane
I would rather have a train that crashes and causes damage that we know of right away and can take action against immediately than an underground pipe that could leak for years, poisoning the soil and water and slowly killing everyone in the area before we even know it is happening.
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Unfortunately, both are bad. Pipelines break, trains crash. Oil needs to flow, but I wish they would impose tougher regulations on all of this. Make pipelines and tankers thicker, improve sensing technology to detect problems, etc.
What I would especially love to see is some legal requirements to make oil companies act faster to stop a disaster, properly clean up the mess, and restore the land and water to more-than pristine condition. Expensive yes, but they can afford it.
The best of course is to find more and more ways to move away from this form of energy. It's just old, and dirty, and expensive, and inefficient... bah.
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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz
We need to have more nuclear <s>or that alien technology they are keeping from us.</s>
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You know what? I agree!
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Originally Posted by woj
truth is that a pipeline is a no brainer, but some groups are stirring shit up because there is ton of $$ at stake... one of them for example might be Warren Buffet, who happens to own a railway company and is now making some serious bank transporting oil by train... it's probably why he is one of few billionaires who supports democrats...
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That's quite a stretch. And besides, the pipeline is already built. It's where the last part of the pipe was to be built that is the major issue.
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Originally Posted by woj
"save the environment" is just a convenient argument to stir things up, but reality is that just like most other issues it's all about $$$... some groups will make ton of $$$ from this pipeline, others will lose a ton...
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It's a bit more than that. Nobody, except real scumbags, want to see the environment destroyed. Oil disasters are an ugly, terrible and tragic thing.