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Old 12-13-2016, 05:25 AM  
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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn View Post
I don't think he was denying anything, he was stating that with reason and logic and imagination and resources we can rise above our instincts and make alternate choices. to me imagination is a really vital element of this process, phrased by ilnjscb as "capacity to recognize" (apologies if I misinterpreted your intent)



agreed here 100%. those capabilities are a foundation though, we do have some agency in our interactions with the world
That is precisely what I meant. Even if we accept the idea that "humans are inherently base" which is in no way verified, we need to see that the best of what we've done has been accomplished by looking away from those tendencies.
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