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Old 01-03-2017, 11:17 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by GspotProductions View Post
with so many Muslim friends, I know you have got this totally incorrect as the Quran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_and_violence
You use Wikipedia, I use the quran.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Just a small sample of 100+ verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Like all bibles, one can take sentences out of context to achieve one's aims. World domination of either of the sects of Islam. They use them to kill each other, claiming those they kill are bad Muslims.

The thought of Islam or a murderous people who use it to murder people?

A religion that orders death for small crimes and no crime at all. Isn't one based on love and peace.

Apostophy.
Adultery
Homosexuality
Murder
Bandits, i.e., al-muhaarib, the one who wages war against Allaah and His Messenger. Spies

Of course, we must not forget Honour killings, Killing people who talk Isalm down or draw a picture of Mo.



Therefore, when those fight against you, it states to stand up for your right, but not to kill innocent people!

Please don't come at me with "not understanding & what planet I live on".

I came from Enfield & Gary from Bedford, a massive Muslim community & with friends always helping believers & non believers. They ship items to Syria, helping those less fortunate & have helped other ethnic & religious communities.

It seems it's you that hasn't Muslim friends & really doesn't understand [/QUOTE]
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