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Old 01-05-2017, 06:14 PM  
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Originally Posted by kane View Post
One of the things we found out from the Snowden leaks is that our intelligence agencies are allowed to act when doing surveillance and collecting data without a warrant if they feel it is something that must happen right now in order to be effective. They are supposed to then go get a warrant after the fact in order to prove they were acting within the law and in good faith. This has happened a lot, but with one little problem, in many of the cases they never bothered to then go to the court and get the warrant. That is against the law.
And I disagree. You need a warrant to search someone's house, read their email (or email), or listen into their phone records. But no where is there a law that says they cannot keep metadata. In fact, all police departments keep metadata about us. Here in my home town the local police department has license plate scanners that scan your license plate, and they track this information.

Also, I do not believe law enforcement needs a warrant to collect data or even do surveillance. Usually they only need a warrant to search you, your car, your house, read your email / mail, or tap your phones.
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