Originally Posted by thommy

ahh that is what i thought - what made me cofused was your sentence



because ad impressions are not visitors.

but i think you both have quite the same problem with your tubes and i think that is a result of a basicly wrong way to generate traffic.

i know tonns of german sites what have more than 10 K english speaking users daily on them but they do not even optimize on english language or even have the sites in english. this users are going there because this pages are perfectly made for google rankings and user satisfaction and getting 500 - 800 k UNIQUE VISITORS only from the 3 german speaking countries (PER DAY) and all from google, bing and yahoo.

i was investigating a bit in the past few month how this "international market" is generating users and make them to money and found out that there are standards around what can not work.

most common error is that thousands of webmasters are thinking they have a million users on their websites. but fact is that most of this traffic is simple circle jerk traffic.
if you send 1 million unique users on 1000 different websites does not mean that you have now 1 billion users (what would be the fact if you count the numbers of every single webmaster). these are STILL THE SAME MILLION users and they have the limited buying power of 1 million individuals. you can circle them as much as you want - it does not make their wallet bigger.

all what i can read about SEO here is buying links and and exchange traffic.

that is a method what does not work anymore.
it might not destroy your position (if you are lucky) but it will not push you anywhere when the onpage SEO does not makes sense.
i do not say that you do not need links but you do not need many of them and you need to place them smart.

if i look on your or similar sites there are so many SEO-nogos what will never attract google that i think your problem is exactly there and not in the hours you invest to make this sites working.

google is really not a mystery - you can read nearly all what is nessecary in their own giving informations. who made google complicated have been the SEOs and linksellers who make you think you need them.

the point is that everybody copies from the other including mistakes - everbody is running after public formulas what can´t work either. this market is so open as i have never seen a market before. google rankings are mostly so fragil, that you see every day how sites going on top and then lose rankings again. that means there is nothing strong existing.

if you watch the rankings in the google country searches you will see a totally different picture. and that´s because these markets are limited and webmasters do not have other possibilities to get traffic as from google and co that´s why they learned to understand google.

i have not deep looked into your sites and i do not even know what site the threadstarter talks about but there are really a lot of basic mistakes on them even when they look optically really nice.

greetings
thommy