Originally Posted by thommy

i do not completely agree with you because there is a BASIC point in all of that what clears most of your facts in a very simple and logic way.

1. porn as it is done from most webasters here is nothing else than pushing visitors from one site to the other.

now i want you to calculate the following:

lets say 100 users leaded somehow to 50 different domains of 50 different webmaster (no matter if the just open one site and leave - or watching a few pages or even get redirected with the next click to again another site) than each of this 50 webmasters have 100 uniques on his domain multiplied by 50 = 5000 unique users in 50 different stats of 50 different webmasters.

the usual average buying power (for porn) from 5000 different users is approximately at 100 US in average.

but we do not have 5000 users in that race - there are only 100 in fact - so divide the average buying power of 100 US by 50 and you are at 2 US.

this 2 US is the BUYING POWER, what means this is not what a webmaster can earnt, because it includes costs for the sold product, payment costs and a few other costs. so from this 2 US there will be paid out 1 US maximum.

now divide this 1 US by the number of unique vistors we have in that game - means 1:5000 = 0,0002 US per "virtual unique" or 0,02 US eCPM.

that explains all what is happening here and as more this traffic is redirected and subredirected as lower is the endresult.

when webmasters going mainstream, there are no such circle jerks and toplist options. it means the user have to be generated at the source (google, facebook etc).
what leads to a very other quality of user because that one is the ONE and not the one who was already 50 times the one.

that fact makes mainstream optically more profitable but in fact, if you just count it on the REAL NUMBER OF UNIQUE VISITORS it is not.

so the problem is not the product and not the adultbiz - the problem is that people can´t count and calculate. that is the neverending fairytale with what multilevel marketing systems and ponzi schemes do find idiots enough since centuries because people do not have a clue of business calculation based on true numbers.

webmasters what are able to make such a calculation and react on that are able to make 50-100 times more profit from their visitors.

that explains also the fairytale, that niche products would make a higher profit. infact they DO NOT. they make a much lower profit if you calculate it on TRUE numbers.
TRUE numbers means always that you have to count the number of INDIVIDUAL USERS because only whyt THEY have in their wallet can be made.

so the error is not in the economy - the error is based on a completely nonsense marketing strategy what is founded, copied and subcopied by people who are trying to survive in a business market without having even a little plan of economiy and calculation rules. ther was a time when that worked just because nobody did it better. but this time is passed since years and it will not come back by just multiply the old errors.

so just do in adult the same as you have to do in mainstream: get the user right away and don´t try to make profit from him after he went through 100 hands.
think in INDIVIDUALS and not in traffic numbers and find the right way to show that to the search engines (SEO does not mean to trick them but show them in what you are good).

the game is VERY simple when you are able to cut out all this bullshit fairytale-strategies made by "1-brain-cell-marketers" - they only work for them if they find people what are even more stupid - but they do not work for the people who believe in them.

you really do not have to be albert einstein and you do not even need a calculator to see where facts can´t be facts. you just need a normal healthy brain.

greetings
thommy