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Old 01-30-2017, 05:19 PM  
Elli
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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny View Post
So that is your opinion. And millions of other people have a different one, from various reasons and life experiences. That is precisely why there is voting. Everyone thinks that their facts are real. Including those guys with dynamite vests and beards. Actually, they don't question anything even if presented with other facts. Similar like people are acting here.

It all depends on education, will to learn and control of information. Unfortunately, education is not free and what is even worse, are the medias that are controlled by someone's interests. At the top of that, books and history are written by those who are on power.

There are no independent medias. Behind every report you see, there is someone's interest. Including promotion of Kim Kardashian's ass. Expecting that people have time and will to investigate things is utopia. It won't happen. So they will accept facts that are presented by someone who has an interest in forming their opinion and getting their vote. Lies and agendas are everywhere. Basic example that would go unnoticed to 99,99% of viewers. (0:22)



Anyway, I am unsubscribing from this thread , shouldn't get here in first place, I should better write some fresh blog posts.
You say "everyone thinks their facts are real." No. Everyone has faith in their own arguments. Many of these arguments are not based on observable facts at all, but only emotion and sometimes anecdotal evidence. Remember the suggestion that "If we change our way of life, then the terrorists win?" That remains true today.

One of the first steps to a fully literate and educated society is free (publicly paid for) education. Of course, someone is paying those teachers, etc. That is what taxes are for. And of course a human will be in charge of deciding how to direct those funds. That is what people like Betsy DeVos are for. Your election votes also go towards choosing those people and picking the best leaders for the job.

To say there are no "independent" medias is a false fallacy. Sure, someone is running the news outlet and they are paid money by various parties. But many news outlets take care in releasing well researched and well sourced articles, and attempt to reduce bias in their reporting (except for op-ed pieces.) It is up to the viewer to search these sources out and encourage their work. Also, never get your news from just one source. Cobble together several of these well-researched news outlets and form your educated opinion from them.

Clinton lost. Sure, she's lied a few times. But she's still a damn good politician with strong connections in the international community. Also, her hands might be a touch larger than Trump's. Was she the best candidate for the DNC to run? Probably not. The DNC needs to get its act together, as does the GOP and anyone else who wants a part in this dance.
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