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Originally Posted by thommy
what you want would be the perfect solution in a PERFECT world.
unfortunately mankind is not made for that because absolute freedom would mean NO RULES or ANARCHY.
in fact anarchy would be the ideal system IF people would have moral enough to know that the own freedom ends where the other ones start.
so free market is nothing else than darwin´s evolution - but in that case not for the physicly strongest and healthiest but for the financially strongest.
so just let´s accept that for a minute that darwin´s doctrine is also valid in the markets and the richer dominates the rich.
that would AUTOMATICLY lead to ONE WINNER at the end. and than you are directly in george orwells 1984 - a dictatorshiip of the capital where only profit concerns and not prospertity of them who give their workpower and lifetime to make this profits.
it is the same as a monopoly game what automaticly ends when one got all.
but we all want human existance goes on and do not end suddenly.
I am a big advocate of free markets but I also know that it is a dream what will not come true in the next 100 generations because of the egoism of individuals.
so even free markets have to be ruled and as better they work as more rules they need.
trump is doing the opposite. i do not know if he is doing it because he is really so stupid or if he is doing it because the bilderberg group decided, that it is now time for taking over the planet and make EVERYONE a slave.
we discuss here about a possibility of a nuclear war and EVERYONE of us thinks, that nobody can be so stupid to destroy the world because he will destroy himself too.
but we see that from OUR small view position and not from the position of people who are rich enough to build their own cities inside a mountain or 300 meters under the ground and do not have to worry about their own destruction.
IF you accept darwin in free markets you also have to accept that there will NEVER be a limit. the final will always be, that someone have all and the next inevitable step will be, that he wants HIS OWN BREED - HIS perfect world - HIS ideology.
so better no free and uncontrolled markets in the next 10.000 years til HUMAN EVOLUTION is able to understand the consequences of their own doing.
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to me anarchy is something differant than what we call free market, as a libertarian i would never call myself an anarchist actually, anarchism is actually a communism based ideology, since they are not only against authority, but to the private propperty as well.
in terms of perfect World, there will never be a perfect World, that's a reality, but if we are getting the pretty mutch same results with "state system", then there is no point of insisting on that.
with state based monopolies, you got lesser chance to be one of those, however with free markets you got a chance of trying the least.
in addition to this, you have better chance to protetct yourself from any sort of agression, but thats a long long topic, so we can leav it at that point.
my solution is firstly use this so called already existed welfare state to teach people how to rely on themselfs rather than governments, then go to the minarchy level, the next should be total free markets without a gov, but humans need to evolve by the time.
for now, like minded people with libertarian values should be allowed to install their own state system that will cover the private place they've bought, though i don't think existing monopolies, burocrats, politicians won't see this as a threat to the power they got, they will try their best to keep it.