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Old 02-22-2017, 09:42 AM  
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WRONG
WHAT IS WRONG ????

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In Holland you need several parties to run the country. Some parties want to invest 2 billion extra, some 1 billions and some left wing parties nothing or even less. Europe and Nato have nothing to say about that. The last 20 years they spent every year LESS.

That 2% was always the norm, but everyone ignored it. A lot of bla bla bla bla.

Now it is even a theme with the elections in Holland. New reserach in Holland showed that only 2,5% of the army trust their minster.... And that reserach and interest is all thanks to Trump. Obama showed some muscles two years ago by not sending troops, but saying Europe must do their part. Trump just give a big Fuck You to countries that don't invest. And not in 8 years, but now.
your point of view is the same as from every normal citizen who discuss that in the beer bar.
but you do not have to forget that politics have nothing to do with what you want or another one wants.

there are ALWAYS 2 different positions and all you can do is to find a compromis whare everyone can lives with.
so you will NEVER find a way to be the "FIRST COUNTRY" that would lead into war with no doubts.



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The only thing i am worried, a European army. Cause than that Verhofstadt van Baalen or other nozem would have started a war already. I trust Trump more with nukes than them. And what if we move to the right, than we have suddenly Le Pen, Berlusconi or other nutcase controling it.
well, berlusconi have other problems and he is out forver (thanks to whoever) le pen is indeed a problem what i see too.
the problem is that people are not able or do simply NOT WANT to deal with such a complicated matter as politics. They also do not understand why one has to close compromises when one comes and lies it works without.

theat is infact the biggest problem of any politician in the past: If he is telling the truth he will not be elected - if he is telling lies he is unable to keep the wrong promises.
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