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Originally Posted by thommy
WHAT IS WRONG ????
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your point of view is the same as from every normal citizen who discuss that in the beer bar.
but you do not have to forget that politics have nothing to do with what you want or another one wants.
there are ALWAYS 2 different positions and all you can do is to find a compromis whare everyone can lives with.
so you will NEVER find a way to be the "FIRST COUNTRY" that would lead into war with no doubts.
well, berlusconi have other problems and he is out forver (thanks to whoever) le pen is indeed a problem what i see too.
the problem is that people are not able or do simply NOT WANT to deal with such a complicated matter as politics. They also do not understand why one has to close compromises when one comes and lies it works without.
theat is infact the biggest problem of any politician in the past: If he is telling the truth he will not be elected - if he is telling lies he is unable to keep the wrong promises.
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Again you are not reading (or understanding) what i am saying. I say, the NATO and Obama can keep saying countries must invest more/2%, that WILL NOT HAPPEN if the parties that win the elections in Holland want less or no extra investments in the Dutch army. I just pointed that out for you, when some of left parties win, Holland won't invest more in the army or less than that 2%. Thanks to Trump now they see it is urgent and putting it in their election program. But instead you start about who is to start a war...
I know for sure more about politics and how it works than you. But by saying 'beer talk' you try to give yourself a reason to not listen to other views.