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Old 02-22-2017, 01:49 PM  
thommy
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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 View Post
Again you are not reading (or understanding) what i am saying. I say, the NATO and Obama can keep saying countries must invest more/2%, that WILL NOT HAPPEN if the parties that win the elections in Holland want less or no extra investments in the Dutch army. I just pointed that out for you, when some of left parties win, Holland won't invest more in the army or less than that 2%. Thanks to Trump now they see it is urgent and putting it in their election program. But instead you start about who is to start a war...

I know for sure more about politics and how it works than you. But by saying 'beer talk' you try to give yourself a reason to not listen to other views.
i really do not see your exact point?
if they spend 1 or 2 % dows not really matter (well in hollandīs case maybe yes) because look france, germany, spain, italy and even poland and some other EU/nato countries are big producers and exporters of weapons - they will not buy from US or just a small part and only in EXCHANGE for own weapons.
obama and also trump is behind this money because USA is the worldīs BIGGEST industry for arms - that game is always about money - no matter who it plays.

but back to your point that the german wall had prevented a war - that is not true. in the real dirty phase of this cold war when berlin was closed and had to be supplied from the air there was no wall. the wall was bild 16 years later and only for the reason that east germans were running away in masses.

a wall does ot stop a missile or a plane. out of that it would have been in the wrong place because the US plan in case of a war was, to give Germany up til the rhine. So WHO did they really defend? the 5 million west from rhine?

believe me one thing - if the russians, chinese irakis and some other nations would not have the same weapon arsenal they would have been nuked already. so i am REALLY GLAD that they have it! i think that not even a kim jong un in north Korea is that incalculable as trump who starts to think AFTER he spoke nonsense and AFTER he tweeted some honk stuff.

So incalculable trump is also the easier is its character to look through. He is simply a booby - a millionaire son who would have done nothing without daddy and his recklessness. This ruthlessness and this egoism do not work in politics - they lead to great tension and in the end probably a big bang.

I hope and wish that the rest of the "awake America" will be wise enough to let this "big bang" be behind the closed doors of the white house and throw the goblin with bag and pack from the Oval Office before it is too late.
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