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Old 02-24-2017, 07:58 AM  
starling
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam View Post
Almost every country is using a VAT or a GST -- much of that money goes toward healthcare and social services. Go live in a cave and take care of yourself.

"welfare state" is a bullshit talking point.

Medicare is a model for universal healthcare -- everyone pays for it that earns income and only gets it when they are 65+ There is already an existing model -- the numbers and benefits just have to change.

Medicaid pays for minimal services for the poor and the working poor now -- your taxes are paying for that (assuming that you pay any taxes).

You argument is a red hearing.
I meant welfare system not state. Vat isn't a good thing either. Adding vat to help the poor is a moot point. "lets help the poor with healthcare by taxing them 20% on everything they buy" I'm in the UK where we have universal healthcare and ill tell you its bloody terrible. The best thing they could do is scrap it.
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