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Originally Posted by Bladewire
Let's pretend this is all true, you know about it because it was disclosed openly and honestly.
The Trump administration is having problems because they hide there contact with Russia and lie about it to the VP, congress under oath, and the American people.
People lie to cover up.
I feel sad for you that you defend Flynn, the National Security Advisor, who lied to our vice president about his ties with Russia.
Morals aren't partisan the law isn't partisan. You can't say it's ok for Sessions to lie under oath, and then in writing, it's not ok.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
You don't see the differences here.
Obama got in touch with the State Department, and arranged multiple meetings which were documented. Trump did whatever he wanted, didn't contact the State Department at all, had multiple meetings with Russia, and then lied and covered it up. Obama wasn't accused of getting help directly from Russia, Trump is. The Trump administration is spinning lies and covering it up.
If there was no wrong doing, why not allow an impartial investigation?
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1. Bladewire...I'm not "pretending it's all true".
Obama takes campaign trail overseas - CNN.com
2. To both of you guys...I never "defended" Flynn. I stated facts. Talking to the Russians was part of the job he was taking over. He fucked up by lying to Pence. And Trump fired him...who needs a guy who isn't 100% a team player?
3. Rochard....Trump had ZERO meetings with Russian officials and didn't lie or cover up anything.
Flynn lied to Pence. He should have came right out and said "Yes, of course I was talking to them and yes I was talking to them about the sanctions" That was his job. He showed himself to be a liar and the President can't have people that he can't trust...so he fired him.
4. Sessions SHOULD have told Franken at the confirmation hearing that YES he talked to the Russian ambassador. Once in his office with 2 Congressional aides, and once when he shook his hand as he was leaving an event after giving a speech. And that would have been the end of it.
He wasn't asked that question. He was being asked in his 2017 confirmation hearing what he would DO as Attorney General if he found out that the Trump campaign had asked the Russians to hack Podesta's email (which Wiki Leaks had dumped way back in March of 2016). He answered that he himself had been referred to as a "surrogate" and that he had no knowledge of anyone in the Trump campaign working with Russian officials.
That is the truth. There is ZERO evidence that ever happened. Just conjecture on the part of anti-Trump forces.
My thoughts:
1. Flynn lied to Pence...Trump fired him. Good.
2. Sessions is a lawyer. A lawyer will always advise you to specifically answer the question you are given and NOT to elaborate or expand your answer into other areas.
BUT...since Sessions is a lifetime/bureaucrat who had lived off the public teat for the last 30 years...he is not trustworthy in my opinion.
I don't like ANY Of the politicians on Trumps cabinet. The only ones I have any trust in are the "billionaires" who are citizens like Trump and never held office before.
So Sessions can burn for all I care.