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  • rogueteens
    So fucking bland
    • Jul 2006
    • 8005

    #1

    How many americans are jobless?



    The answer isn't 94 million, its only 21 million as the rest don't want to work!

    I've never watched a NBC programme but it sounds like they are as bad as the bbc.

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  • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    • Feb 2011
    • 6442

    #2
    lol "by choice"....

    3,000 people didn't die on 9/11...only 1,500 did...the rest passed away or weren't heard from again

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    • Odysseus
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      • Apr 2005
      • 745

      #3
      10 million!

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      • mce
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        • Jun 2012
        • 3915

        #4
        That statistic is used as a POLITICAL CLUB

        There are many people who DON'T WANT TO WORK because

        1) they're too young
        2) they're in school
        3) they're retired (many Baby Boomers)

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        • HowlingWulf
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          • Nov 2001
          • 1662

          #5
          The 94 million includes college students and retirees.
          I don't think those should count in the unemployment rate.
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          • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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            • Feb 2011
            • 6442

            #6
            Originally posted by HowlingWulf
            The 94 million includes college students and retirees.
            I don't think those should count in the unemployment rate.
            But the ridiculous unemployment rate of 5.4% doesn't include people who are unemployed

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            • NatalieK
              Natalie K
              • Apr 2010
              • 20123

              #7
              Originally posted by rogueteens
              The answer isn't 94 million, its only 21 million as the rest don't want to work
              & just think, all of those are the Trump voters
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              • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                • Feb 2011
                • 6442

                #8
                Originally posted by GspotProductions
                & just think, all of those are the Trump voters
                ummmm not really

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                • RedFred
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                  • Feb 2016
                  • 9782

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                  ummmm not really
                  You work?

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                  • Robbie
                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20960

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HowlingWulf
                    The 94 million includes college students and retirees.
                    I don't think those should count in the unemployment rate.
                    No it does not. The 94 million is from the U.S. labor dept. statistics and is based on the WORKFORCE.

                    Not children and not retirees. Yes, it does include college students. But 4 out of 5 college students HAVE jobs.

                    It is bad here with jobs. The people who do have jobs have crappy jobs that don't pay.
                    What we need is to get business BACK to America and stop outsourcing everything.
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                    • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                      • Feb 2011
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Robbie
                      No it does not. The 94 million is from the U.S. labor dept. statistics and is based on the WORKFORCE.

                      Not children and not retirees. Yes, it does include college students. But 4 out of 5 college students HAVE jobs.

                      It is bad here with jobs. The people who do have jobs have crappy jobs that don't pay.
                      What we need is to get business BACK to America and stop outsourcing everything.
                      But but but the unemployment rate is 5%!

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                      • mineistaken
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                        • Apr 2007
                        • 29656

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GspotProductions
                        & just think, all of those are the Trump voters
                        Not really. Socialists/commies/leftards are more prone to unemployment than righters.

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                        • Barry-xlovecam
                          It's 42
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 18083

                          #13
                          https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm

                          Do the fucking math.

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                          • Robbie
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                            Do the fucking math.
                            Here ya go. Don't even need to do math. The govt. has the graph all laid out nice and pretty for you. Use the drop down for dates and got back to 1990 for instance or 1980 as the start date and then see how bad it really is.
                            https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
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                            • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 6442

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Robbie
                              Here ya go. Don't even need to do math. The govt. has the graph all laid out nice and pretty for you. Use the drop down for dates and got back to 1990 for instance or 1980 as the start date and then see how bad it really is.
                              https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

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                              • eric_wahlberg
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                                • Dec 2015
                                • 618

                                #16
                                Not about jobs, but living a good life

                                The point right now is not about jobs, but not able to live a good life to an expected standard.

                                Jobs are there, but they are so low that you can't afford a good life i.e. take a vacation, dining out in a restaurant, buying a car etc.

                                On top of that, you just can't hike a salary because you really don't know whether you will survive or not.
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                                • Paul Markham
                                  Too old to care
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 52942

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                  & just think, all of those are the Trump voters
                                  And so that should be. Other Presidents fucked them in the ass.



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                                  • Paul Markham
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                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 52942

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                    No it does not. The 94 million is from the U.S. labor dept. statistics and is based on the WORKFORCE.

                                    Not children and not retirees. Yes, it does include college students. But 4 out of 5 college students HAVE jobs.

                                    It is bad here with jobs. The people who do have jobs have crappy jobs that don't pay.
                                    What we need is to get business BACK to America and stop outsourcing everything.
                                    This is why the US and many other Western Countries are in deep debt and getting worse. An unemployed or low salary worker can't contribute, the companies they worked for and now in theEast, contribute very little to nothing. Without trade tariffs that take away the advantage of manufacturing in the Third World. The West is fucked.



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                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                      • Dec 2011
                                      • 26732

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                      And so that should be. Other Presidents fucked them in the ass.
                                      no you guys "paul markham-ed" yourselves it has nothing to do with government or immigrants...westerners got fat and are now uncompetitive...if westerners wanted to employ westerners, they would....if westerners wanted to buy "made in west" goods then they would...

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                                      • INever
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                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 4031

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                        This is why the US and many other Western Countries are in deep debt and getting worse. An unemployed or low salary worker can't contribute, the companies they worked for and now in theEast, contribute very little to nothing. Without trade tariffs that take away the advantage of manufacturing in the Third World. The West is fucked.
                                        Paul you are right. Western EU also gave away factories to Eastern EU and Asia.
                                        The solution? No quick fix but fair trade is a start. For example, China is a closed market; only 40 or so Hollywood films a year are allowed in, import taxes are sky high on Harleys and everything else.

                                        One way is to put the import tariffs on first and then negotiate back to fair trade.

                                        Lots more jobless than 5%. Closer to 20 or 25% if you count everyone who lost good paying work at $30 or $50 an hour and won't do Starbucks at $15.

                                        And Rockefeller Center based, GE-owned, NBC, can kiss my ass.
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                                        • Paul Markham
                                          Too old to care
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 52942

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by INever
                                          Paul you are right. Western EU also gave away factories to Eastern EU and Asia.
                                          The solution? No quick fix but fair trade is a start. For example, China is a closed market; only 40 or so Hollywood films a year are allowed in, import taxes are sky high on Harleys and everything else.

                                          One way is to put the import tariffs on first and then negotiate back to fair trade.

                                          Lots more jobless than 5%. Closer to 20 or 25% if you count everyone who lost good paying work at $30 or $50 an hour and won't do Starbucks at $15.

                                          And Rockefeller Center based, GE-owned, NBC, can kiss my ass.
                                          Force countries like China to buy as much as they want to sell.



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                                          • Barry-xlovecam
                                            It's 42
                                            • Jun 2010
                                            • 18083

                                            #22

                                            Here it's this fucking simple
                                            If you can't count our use a computer for what it is made for -- why do you deserve a job anyway?

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                                            • Robbie
                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 20960

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

                                              Here it's this fucking simple
                                              If you can't count our use a computer for what it is made for -- why do you deserve a job anyway?
                                              You do realize that those numbers you keep showing do NOT show the millions of people who simply have given up looking for work?

                                              The Labor Force Participation numbers show the exact true amount of people qualified to be in the work force (not retirees, not children, etc.)

                                              The numbers you are showing are the ones the Feds changed the algorithm for during the beginning of the Obama administration.

                                              The new algorithm doesn't count the people who are not "actively seeking work".
                                              Now how the govt. decides whether you are "actively seeking work" is kind of a mystery.

                                              But that is the way it works now. The unemployment numbers are not accurate. They tell a PARTIAL story. The story of how many people who are "actively looking for work" are employed.
                                              The rest of the story is told by the Labor Force Participation numbers...and those are the ones that Presidents, Senators, and Congressman REALLY look at in assessing the economy.

                                              Up until a few years ago...the number showed all the qualified work force and how many were employed in that total number.

                                              Do you understand? The numbers you are being fed are not accurate. That's why you are incredulous when people claim otherwise.

                                              Do some research. Don't just try to find stuff that agrees with your mindset. Look for the truth in the matter. It's real easy to find out.

                                              Here are some ideas for you:
                                              Google this phrase:
                                              "who is counted in unemployment rate"

                                              Google this one:
                                              "definition of labor force"

                                              And google this one:
                                              "actual people in labor force unemployed"

                                              Open your mind and take into account that you may have been misled by the politicians and media outlets you trusted in.
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                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                              • Barry-xlovecam
                                                It's 42
                                                • Jun 2010
                                                • 18083

                                                #24
                                                those are the published statistics.

                                                if they don't agree with you -- too fucking bad

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                                                • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                  • Feb 2011
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                                                  #25
                                                  youre wasting your breathe with these shitlibs, robbie

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                                                  • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                    • Jun 2010
                                                    • 18083

                                                    #26
                                                    Robbie can build his own sandcastle. I go by the numbers published. No one is paying me for my time to hypothesize to match a conclusion.

                                                    So, I don't give a fuck.

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                                                    • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                      • Feb 2011
                                                      • 6442

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                      Robbie can build his own sandcastle. I go by the numbers published. No one is paying me for my time to hypothesize to match a conclusion.

                                                      So, I don't give a fuck.
                                                      Theyre fake numbers you MORON

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                                                      • Barry-xlovecam
                                                        It's 42
                                                        • Jun 2010
                                                        • 18083

                                                        #28
                                                        The BLS numbers are fake and the CT guys of the Internet and the Trump people are right -- you are fucking hopeless.

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                                                        • JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                          • Feb 2011
                                                          • 6442

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                          The BLS numbers are fake and the CT guys of the Internet and the Trump people are right -- you are fucking hopeless.
                                                          Trump was right yet again

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