Originally Posted by thommy

i completely understand your concerns but the point is that in this century you can´t go with an army somewhere and win a war.

they are MUCH more and they are not scared to die for what they believe.

that Europe haven´t seen a real war since the second one (except Yugoslavia )
is a result of talk together and find compromises.
i think we still live damned good in Europe - even when things are not perfect.

but that is life - if there are 2 with different meanings nobody will change the others point. they can only agree on something in the middle and live in piece together.

the Romans killed the Christians for centuries - Christians are still alive but Roma is gone.

There was also a time when Muslims and Christians lived together in peace. In fact, we learned a lot from them and they shared it without a problem. The real big problems with the Muslim countries started after Britain and the USA interfered there and wanted their oil.

As all these countries are too small to win a war against one of these nations they invented the jihad and collected a worldwide army by using a religious believing.

At the end "believers" always win - what the Americans should have learned already in Vietnam were they lost a war against people who are not taller than 10-year-old children - but they BELIEVED and there is no weapon to destroy believing.

That is why it does not make sense to make the problem bigger with sawing hate. Maybe we should try to saw "understanding each other"
and remind people one the one as on the other side that there have been centuries when we lived in freedom and prosperity together.

We should not allow that financial interest of multibillion companies control the politics and give a shit on piece. We should destroy all this war-makers, the weapon producers and should cancel the licenses of pharma indutrials and others who make billions and billions with the human right to live as soon as they jump over the limit.

I could give you a bunch more REAL ENEMIES - we are trying to resolve that problem from the wrong perspective.