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Originally Posted by shiraz9944
Hence the walkout of the UN yesterday about banning Nuclear weapons, the UK has more aircraft carriers than all of Russia and more SLBM's at sea. Not to mention the US behind them all the way. Add in 500 F35 fighters that not even the best Russian fighter can touch and I think they will be fine. Plus the Uk spends more on defense budget than Russia only outmatched by China at 160 billion and the US at 600 billion. Even Pacifist France keeps 2 dozen ICBM's at the ready and several SLBM's at sea. In 20 years Putin will be dead and so will Russia's fragile economy, see what happened last year when oil hit a new low? With Solar in the US and China growing exponentially, Russia will be dead in the water.
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Looking at today is really useless when it comes to politics. That's why I said "In 20 years".
What about Europe's fragile economy? Check out where the real growth is. UK's national debt is 81.58% of total GDP and rising
Aircraft carriers are useless against hundreds of long distance nuclear missles.
Next WW will be different.
Fact: China is stepping on the stage of geo politics. Aggresively expending their influence in the region.
Fact: Russia is stepping on the stage of geo politics. Aggresively and passive agressively expending their influence; sabotaging others...
Fact: Turkey is stepping on the stage of geo politics. Aggresively and passive agressively expending their influence; sabotaging others...
Fact: The US losing influence around the world. 15 years ago it was unthinkable Russia could interfere in Syria like they did while the US stood there, watched and did nothing.
Fact: The US turning to isolationist politics. The future of Nato is unsure.
The problem with the spoiled Euro youngsters: They never experienced war. Only read about it in the history books. They never experienced poverty. Wealth to them comes naturally. They think it was Always there and will Always be here only because the rest of the world grants us this wealth. The fact is that the wealth of the West comes from dominating; enslaving and exploiting other regions. Wars are being sold to the public on moral grounds. Behind the curtains wars are Always about protecting political/economical positions.
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Originally Posted by shiraz9944
Being the world's police isn't cheap and sorry but the US isn't a socialist shithole, I figured after seeing the EU try it you would have figured it out, if you other countries contributed at all we wouldn't have to do provide everything for you. You even buy our fighters instead of make your own.
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Looking at the US national debt... indeed... it isn't cheap.
In regards to your fighters.... The US coudn't have produced them without some EU businesses nor without countries ordering them and paying for them upfront. So basically the developtment of the joint strike fighter is a shared project of many countries (with level 1- level 2 and level 3- partnerships.)
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Originally Posted by shiraz9944
The UK pays more into the EU budget than it gets back. In 2016 the UK government paid £13.1 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4.5 billion. So the UK's 'net contribution' was estimated at about £8.6 billion...........so by being in the EU the UK basically gave away 8.6 billion for what? Better trade agreements? They already have that.
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Yeah so? The UK isn't the only country who pays more than it receives. For what? Yes... it's clear there isn't a European spirit neither there is a long term vision to protect the continent from the challenges of the 21th century.
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Originally Posted by GspotProductions
strange when you say shitty tiny Euro States, you may aswel create an Islamic group of your own, trying to divide the world.
This is the POV I am trying to put across. If it wasn“t for world wars, there“s a lot more money to be put into education & the economy, the ozone, the world, one world we live in  |
The question is: who is trying to divide Europe?
In regards to wars.... Wealth is there where wars are won... Simple law of nature. The whole world is a battle for natural resources. The reason why pacifists are able to float in the air is because they deny the laws of nature.
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
The EU has to be forced to spend more on Defence.
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True... and it needs a single coordinated army....