Originally Posted by Rochard

Really?

We kicked out the Taliban government in what, 2001, and how many times has the new government of Afghanistan been overthrown? At the same time, has the Taliban or Al qaeda staged an attack against the United States since 9/11? Seems to be a success to me.

Iraq? How many times has the government of Iraq been overthrown? Since the United States put a new government in power in Iraq has Iraq invaded any other countries like Kuwait?

While I understand the difficulties involved in both countries, both of them have been a success. Countries are different than modern countries like the US, Canada, and Europe - Governments in the Middle East have little control of the population outside of the main cities. But in both cases Iraq and Afghanistan are no longer a threat to anyone else.