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Old 04-30-2017, 10:03 AM  
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Look at the last 8 years...Pres. Obama couldn't get anything done either.
Nearly 450 Obama Accomplishments, With Citations

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Why not just HONESTLY discuss the policies that are in question?
I've been thinking about that alot. I think the problem is real-time fact checking, and the general format of conversations.

Here me out:

When Trump or any other politician is asked a question, they tend to ramble on for a few minutes and inject a few other ideas, points, talking points etc into the answer. A real time fact-check is impossible or almost never done.

When a politician gives a speech, there's no real time fact checking. Yes new agencies will point out errors a day or so later, but by then its too late.

When you and me and everyone else talk on GFY there is again no real-time fact checking. This combined with the injection of other subjects, idea or opinions usually lead to arguments and at least a couple of tangents off of the main topic.

What I think we would have to do is come up with a different way of talking. For example, sticking absolutely to a single subject. Keeping emotion and opinion out. Limiting the statement to 1 or 2 lines. Backing up those statements with citations etc, in an attempt to drill-down to the root-core of an issue, and to get an absolute answer.

In order words, I think the format of the conversation has to change.

You and I know GFY mostly opinionated assholes like me and you ;) shooting off our mouths followed by frustration when no one understands us. This, plus the obvious truth that most people believe what they believe due to emotion over actual facts, makes this form of conversation ineffective.
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