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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
So you speculate that when Holland leaves the EU, we are not allowed to do any trading? That trading would disappear? Is the EU making plans than to bancrupt Holland? That would be a Nazi idea.
PS, if England has to pay to leave the EU, does Holland get the 100 billion back that we are in the plus?
Dutch politician demands â?¬100m from ECB boss if they leave eurozone | World | News | Express.co.uk
The statistics in Holland showed what Dutch found most important at the elections:
1) Immigration
2) Healthcare (remember, babyboom aftter WW2, we inherented from WW2)
3) Crime
4) Economy
And Sweden is doing well without Euro. Maybe it is time to get rid of the Euro and give countries the chance to play with the excahnge rate. Now we had in Holland a lot of extra taxes to pay the Bill of Europe, while Europe is printing billions for other countries. Could they not just print some money for Holland also, so we didn''t have to economize?
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What comes across from Thommy is his dream of an EU that rules Europe and crushes any nation that tries to break away.
His approach is always how much countries that leave will lose and never how much the remaining EU countries will lose. The Netherlands does a lot of trade with the EU and has a surplus, the UK has a deficit.
The people who ran the Common Market were very clever. They took control of the trade member states did, then signed up to deals that could take complete control of Europe. Without consulting the people of Europe or ignoring the results of any referendum that voted not to join the EU.
Thommy is now in favour of punishing any country that dares to vote to leave the EU. No matter how much damage that causes to the people remaining in the EU.
Read up on what the EU attempts to do when it sets up major trade dealswith non-EU nations.
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What is CETA?
The Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) is a deal negotiated between the EU and Canada which poses a major threat to our democracy, public services and the environment.
It has been dubbed the "little brother" of the better known Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) between the EU and the USA. But CETA negotiations are already finalised and the deal could be ratified as early as mid 2016.
Like TTIP, CETA could have wide-ranging effects on our lives. If ratified, CETA would:
Allow corporations to sue governments in secret offshore courts for making laws to protect their citizens.
Hand multinationals a greater role in making new regulation and thereby risk sparking a race to the bottom in standards for important areas like food safety and environmental regulation.
Lock in privatisation of services. CETA includes a ?rachet? clause which only allows governments to move in the direction of privatisation.
Remove protection for key UK products like Cornish pasties or Cumberland sausages.
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TTIP illustrates the terrible mess the EU trade negotiators made.
Trade deals are done behind closed doors with no information leaking out. Then a vote rubber stamps the agreement. No one has any intention of asking the 500 million Europeans what they want.
The problem when setting trade deals is the cost of labour in Third World Countries. What EU trade deal forces countries with a low-paid workforce, like China, to buy as much as it sells?
EU trade deals are constructed to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. And put the middle class into the poor bracket. That's what Thommy wants a Europe rules by Germany with everyone else punished should they decide to leave.