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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
What comes across from Thommy is his dream of an EU that rules Europe and crushes any nation that tries to break away.
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what a nonsense - nobody has forced anybody in the EU.
the EU should be a unit - what you say is the same as "a country that rules a country"
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His approach is always how much countries that leave will lose and never how much the remaining EU countries will lose. The Netherlands does a lot of trade with the EU and has a surplus, the UK has a deficit.
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sure will the remaining countries lose - there is no doubt about that. but they will loose LESS then the rest. what will THEY DO ? founding a new EU ???
and WHY britain have a deficit I explained you already. it is a pure result of the british pound. no one has forbidden you to keep the pound, but you should not blame the others for your own wrong decisions
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The people who ran the Common Market were very clever. They took control of the trade member states did, then signed up to deals that could take complete control of Europe. Without consulting the people of Europe or ignoring the results of any referendum that voted not to join the EU.
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what a nonsense - what kind of anarchist are you that you do not understand that every kind of unity needs rules.
is this just pure egoizm or just rest alcohol what speaks out of you ?
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Thommy is now in favour of punishing any country that dares to vote to leave the EU. No matter how much damage that causes to the people remaining in the EU.
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paul did you not realize that non of the realistic politicians and not one bigger company wants that? WHO will give the work you want to the people when all this companies are going ? and they go with a reason and not because of missunderstanding the enonomy.
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Read up on what the EU attempts to do when it sets up major trade dealswith non-EU nations.
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first you have to show them on the map where those countries are.
the biggest trades happening are INSIDE the EU. and they happens BECAUSE of the euro
and opening trade borders.
if the 500 million europeans have that much clue of eceonomy as you have it would be better to keep them out because if the world runs by the ideas of hobby enonomists it would not work at all.
i case of CETA you have posted also an old information because everybody (including the most politicians and the big companies was protesting against it (me too) but in a democracy things will find an open ear and that is why what you have postet is not fact.
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Allow corporations to sue governments in secret offshore courts for making laws to protect their citizens.
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is not part of CETA and it was the major reason why TTIP was never signed.
so what are you complaining? do you complain that US and Canada WANTED that part or that the EU did NOT sign it ?????
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The problem when setting trade deals is the cost of labour in Third World Countries. What EU trade deal forces countries with a low-paid workforce, like China, to buy as much as it sells?
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paul i am sorry you really do not have the SMALLEST clue of what you are taking about.
i will give you an example:
if you work 1 hour and make 50 dollars and someone else works for you 10 hours but make only 2 dollars per hour WHAT IS YOUR EXCHANGE RATE ????
forget about money - money does not mean anything. it is just a help to exchange performance.
not one nation in the world can survive without buying cheap labour from outside.
where do you think would a company like apple and microfoft be when the parts of the computers would be produces on european wages?
do you think you would be able to buy a computer? i doubt it !!!
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EU trade deals are constructed to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. And put the middle class into the poor bracket. That's what Thommy wants a Europe rules by Germany with everyone else punished should they decide to leave.
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the whole world is consrtucted like that and the boss of people who want that is mr. trump. if you do not want that and want equality in the world - we all would live like chinese. so yes - they give us PROSPERITY !!!!
in 100 thousand years of mankinds history PROSPERITY was growing by enlarging markets and with finding the CHEAPEST way to produce things.
just answer me the following question:
WHY should people who are not able to produce things on an affordable price do that ?
WHO WOULD BENEFIT ????? fucking NOBODY WOULD !