[QUOTE=thommy;21760624]trading WHAT ?????
holland does not have big industry and not a lot of natural ressources.
the BIP in holland grow more than 100% since they joined the EU because of the advantage of international trading contracts.
do you think holland import power is the same as the one of the EU ?
that holland CAN be an exporter is not at least a result of chaeper imports and open trading borders.
25% of the total exports from holland are going to germany.
and you REALLY think holland could stand that alone?
if I would be you I would better wait to see how well that goes in britain before you close a door what will not open again.
you should check your vitam D household. paranoia can come from a low vitami D level.
oh sure you will because if the idea of the EU will not stand because of right minded people like you you can get that because after the EU is done you can wipe your ass with it because the Euro is than a piece of paper.
Quote:
The statistics in Holland showed what Dutch found most important at the elections:
1) Immigration
that mess you had already BEFORE the EU or donīt you know that holland was once a imperialistic country (same britain) and now have to pay the bill?
2) Healthcare (remember, babyboom aftter WW2, we inherented from WW2)
BULLSHIT !!!!
3) Crime
oh yes that is a problem because your crime rate DROPPED 8.8%
but i think the radical right wing in holland will change that soon.
4) Economy
as I said the BIP of Holland went up more than 100% since the EU and the Euro.
and for this you pay fucking 0,54% of the BIP.
and do you knw WHY you pay that? because they agreed to to make rotterdam the number one harbour for sea transportations to the EU. ALL european countries north from italy are using it.
do you think hamburg canīt replace rotterdam?
mabye this over 100% growth are too much for you and you want to suffer. If so - DO IT but why do you want that the majority of the citizens does that too just becaue you are not smart enough to undertand the complexity ot the world?
donīt comapre sweden with holland. sweden is a country of enourmous technology exports (mostly to china btw) and natural ressources.
and swedenīs economy went down because of the problem with the crown. actually sweden is printing money to keep the exchange rate comparable to the Euro.
for WHAT OTHER COUNTRY is the EU printing money?
why are you talking like a child ? why do you see what you pay in the EU and not what you receive from the EU? that was the same fake information what caused the brexit because they were talking only from the spendings but not from the benefits. and this mistake the brits will pay VERY EXPENSIVE.
companies already run away in flocks. london stock exchange will be loosing importance and all waht britain can do in the future is to become a second panama and survive as a money laundry country.
the sissors between rich and poor will open MUCH more.
i mean - i do not really care if there are more countries going out of the EU because the strongest one will survive - and then all the others who went out will try to make a new EU and everything starts again. unity is not a choice it is an obligation to survive.
|
Again, your 4th reich idea, when you don't want to assimilate, the EU will destroy that country? Why doesn't the EU destory Switzerland what is not part of the EU, or Sweden that doesn't have the euro cause the people didn't want it. It is cause there are some euronazis in charge.
Look at other sources, Holland pays more to the EU than it gets. Holland is 1 of the 4 countries that pays more to the EU than it receives. Maybe we loose a little, but wars have been fought to be independent, you can not put that in financial figures. Come on, start a 4th world war if Holland leaves the eu. That is exactly what i and many others are warning about. If Germany uses its power and have a population with all 'Thommies'", there will be a war. Hope the politicians in Germany are a bit smarter. And than the bla bla about helping poor countries by immigration so when they go back they can built up their own vountry. But in the meantime you are thinking about bancrupting Holland when they don't want to say Sieg EU? You are Crazy.
1) Immigration, look at the refugees, that is also part of immigration. The first months Holland was like, come all here, wir schaffen das. But that was soon over. In Holland there is not much problems with immigration, only from some Islam countries. And we can not stop that easily cause than they come from another EU country... And we can not stop deals with for instance Turkey cause than all 28 members must agree (or you must leave the EU). And 90% of the immigration problems in Holland have nothing to do with the Colonisation but mostly with immigrants that where needed to fix the babyboom and rebuild the country... (sorry, i mentioned the war)
2) Look at the studies about the babyboom after WW2. First killing and murdering a big part of the people that where able to work, than the babyboom after the war, than the need of immigration to pay for the elderly, but you say it has nothing to do with WW2. You must be brainwashed. And it is THAT immigration period that causes the problems now, nothing to do with colonialism.
3) Crime isn't that much less. It didn't go up either that much. Look at this respactable newspaper and use Google translate:
Cookies op AD.nl | AD.nl
and
Cijferanalyse: misdaad daalt waarschijnlijk helemaal niet, u doet gewoon geen aangifte meer (1) | 925.nl
4) Economy
Rotterdam harbor was the biggest harbor in the world far before the EU (some years ago China took over the lead). It is growing faster than Hamburg. Europe must thankfull for that, without Holland the EU wouldn't been able to grow. Europe can still use the harbour after Holland leaves the Euro or EU. I don't see problems with that.
"According to the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, the Netherlands was the 18th largest economy of the world in 2012, while the country has only about 17 million inhabitants. (see: List of countries by GDP (nominal)). GDP per capita is roughly $48,860 which makes it one of richest nations in the world (see: List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita). Between 1996 and 2000 annual economic growth (GDP) averaged over 4%, well above the European average. "
You see, well ABOVE the European average, that was before the Euro..
The economy is noted for stable industrial relations, fairly low unemployment and inflation, a very big sizable current account surplus (compared to the size of the country even more than Germany)
The Netherlands is a founding member of the European Union, the OECD and the World Trade Organization.
Holland exports a lot of knowledge, agribusiness, machines, flowers. Espacially export of machines is rising very fast. I know a technician who travels to all Europe, Russia and South America and even China to install Dutch machines.
Cookiewall: Cookies op de Volkskrant | de Volkskrant
Well if Germany fucks Holland, we can Always start making more synthetic drugs and export that, we are number 1 in that also.
So you are more a negative personality, i look at the bright side and see that people will adapt to new situations and will be able to survive. Just like the UK will. There will Always be solutions, and if it goes wrong with the Uk, we should help them. Why do we take the most corrupt countries in the EU, and than turn the back to friendly nations who helped us with wars? That wouldn't happen, the UK could get back in the EU than. But i don't believe they need it.