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Originally Posted by thommy
completely wrong - 100% will pay for it because keeping our planet alive is not an advantage for an exclusive part of human beeing.
define WICH money and HOW can money disappear !!!
money CAN NOT disappear.
do you think that the best conditioned economy in the world canīt stand that?
there will be other partners and there HAVE TO BE other partners because what trump is doing makes the people poorer and they will not be able to buy expensive cars anyway.
also the german car industry needs that kick in the ass to change their vision.
the exports to USA are one reason why German car-companies are not investing in cleaner cars yet.
tesla is a very good example. there is not ONE country yet (and the worst in their own country) what could give them enough sales yet to survive. they are surviving and growing in a worlwide market.
you talk about economy from yesterday - if our economy is based on ecology instead of wars things are very different.
and WHY are you afraid of robots?
these are the legal slaves of the future and if mankind is smart enough they can bring HUGE prosperity if you do not think in a brain prison.
first of all: even the NASA has proved meanwhile that this issue exists.
we see already the consequences of this human made climate change and if the world seas are getting much warmer as they are already it is the end of the sea live and if the sealive ends we do not need to buy a new aircondition anymore. all human beeing is connected to the sea live. and it will end with the sealive.
that some idiot populists throwing different paroles around does not make things better. they do not have an alternative. the 2 choices we have is to do something and try to survice or to do nothing and hope the populists are right. the chance of the last is as high as a win in the lottery.
no i will not keep dreaming - thatīs your part and if you survive with your dream than it is only because others prefered to do something instead of sleeping and ignoring the alarm.
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Again you try to put things around. If i say things about robots, you are acting if i would be afraid of that. But i in fact refered to some topics ago where there was a discussion about robots and i said we don't need immigrants, cause we better should invest in robots. You mentioned than there will never be a factory that would produce only with robots cause than t'here won't be people with work that can buy those products. So i am not afraid, you where ignorant that it wouldn't happen. So i see you are also not worried anymore that those factories robotize everything and don't need people. You where so afraid of people not having money to buy those products if that would happen cause it wasn't possible acording to your old economics.
"define WICH money and HOW can money disappear !!! money CAN NOT disappear. "
Must i realy explain this? If you don't understand the word corruption. Read the Paris Paper. Rich countries will pay for the poor countries. I can imagine already how billions will go to Ukrain to make their chicken farms sustainable, and in wich pockets that money will end.
You are saying Trump is so wrong with import taxes. But you say it yourself, that would be a nice kick in the ass for the car industry. If Trump want import tax, he has right. He only should call it "green tax" to use that money for the Paris treaty, and the problem is solved. So much resistence against import tax instead of globalization, but in the mean time people in Holland also pay an extra tax on cars from germany, and we are neighbours, in the EU. So shouldn't you change your mind about Trump going after the German car industry if you are so concerned about the Climate? But when Trump talked about the tax, you where more woried people had to pay more for a car in the USA.
There where much warmer periods on this earth and it waill always change. Humans have a little influence on that. We know there can be a period again with much colder weather. As i said, economic growh and saving the planet can't go hand in hand. If everybody in the third world will live like westerns, all natural resources will be used. And i also see an egoistic point. People want to save the world, but keep living like they are doing, 2 cars, 3 times a year on holiday by plane, a few phones, tv's etcerra.
Ofcourse we must stop polute the world. But all the bla bla that we must act now, that we don't have 10 more years is just to make people scared so they are willing to pay more tax. It starts all with yourself, stop buying so many things that use so much natural resources. In the end there is only one way and they are already doing that. Investing in clean energy and taxing things that are not good for the environment. But all those things are happening already. No need for a piece of Paris paper. You better hope that the green party's get a majority somewhere, they will suck all your money and fun out of live.
Realy, in all you are writing i read only 1 thing; Germany Uber Alles.