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Originally Posted by Robbie
You're leaving out something. The Federal Govt. heavily REGULATES the health care system in the U.S., and has been doing so since long before ObamaCare.
And it's the Federal Govt. which set the rules allowing Big Pharma, hospitals, Big Insurance, etc. to price gouge the U.S.
You really had to live here to have seen it happen.
The Feds went so far as to stop people from crossing the Canadian border to get life-saving drugs that they could not afford to buy here in the U.S. and pressured the Canadian govt. to check ID and NOT sell to US citizens.
And that happened back in the 1980's after HMO's went into effect.
No...the healthcare industry, big pharma, and big insurance have lobbyists that spend so much money in Washington D.C. that getting the price gouging to stop wasn't going to happen.
With govt. involved it destroyed the market. The lobbyists made sure of that. They didn't want a competitive field.
They had Congress set up the regulations so it benefitted them.
That's the way our corrupt govt. works.
Before govt. got involved here in the U.S., we used to pay our medical expenses out of pocket. It wasn't expensive at all.
The only thing you needed was "catastrophic insurance". In case you were in a car wreck or had a heart attack, etc.
Trying to compare us to European countries that are much smaller and have a tiny economy compared to the United States...just doesn't work. Especially when the U.S. has spent so much money in Europe post-WW2 helping all those country's regain their footing in the first place.
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did you ever use your brain to think about WHY you have the highest healthcare costs (and had it already long before obama) ?
this is a result of a few failures in your system (this system you want to get back)
1. people in US are allowed NOT to be insured. that leads to the fact that they will not pay in any insurance - they will NOT go to a doctor and deseases are NOT mentioned soon enough to cure them.
2. that again leads into your very biggest problem named MEDICAID - because uninsured people what are getting sick, canīt work and spend all their money in other things as their health will need it and it cost a fortune.
3. MEDICAID is not since obama - it is a very old problem what became bigger and bigger because of this idiot system to allow people not to be insured.
4. your complete system is fucked because you can only vote for corrupt politicians (and now you hope the most corrupt will fix it). that makes healthcare for a BIG business and
the clever pharma industry found ways in the past that people do not die so fast on diseases. this ways keep them longer alive and longer sick.
5. I bet that 99% of republicans are financing their own life with shares of the pharma giants or are on their pay list. they will do a fuck to change that because it means that they lose money.
what you need is not another president (and the last thing is an idiot president like trump). no president can change anything because whatever he will do will be stopped by the congress or the senat and as soon he brings the citizens into their responsibility he will be stopped from them.
so see the truth: america is bankrupt already - more bankrupt as all the countries behind the iron curtain ever have been. it is just a question of time til this system need to be changed or you are bought by the chinese or indians.
itīs time for you to understand that the complete system has failed and have to be thrown to the garbitch.