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Originally Posted by Robbie
Ah...insults...last resort in an argument.
I'll keep it in the arena of ideas instead.
What I am trying to point out is: "International Funding" usually means the United States paying the big majority of that "funding".
In other words taking money from OUR taxpayers and handing it to other country's.
And in this case...it is country's that are potential CUSTOMERS of U.S. energy resources.
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that´s just one side of the truth because EVERYONE of the industry nation is paying into that (not really in a fund but in the own goal).
so what these country will not need for SURE is caol and oil.
but thy will need alterantive technologies. If USA (what does have the know how to be one of the leading nations in that) is ignoring that and tries to force other countries to buy coal and oil - it is WHO´s fault ?
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So, from a business perspective...the United States would be paying other country's to NOT be our customers.
That is a LOSE/LOSE proposition for the U.S.
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as i said the only things these countries have to pay for is the technology.
the help for third world countries is in that case only in own interest because first of all it will safe the planet and second of all it gives them a better life. people with a better life will stay in their countries instead running away.
with enough energy these countries will also be able to do also international trades (ad yes that means producing cheaper for our prosperity) but they will always need the technology site and there will be new customers more and more.
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I voted for Trump for the economy. This is part of what working people are sick and fucking tired of.
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if you mean with "for economy" that the billionairs will get richer you was right to vote for him. because these people will make the most money when your economy is broken. but the one who pays for it are people like you.
this is what trump stands for.
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Killing our own economy...just really, really dumb.
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agree - but why you are voting for someone who wants to hold 50.000 jobs from yesterday and does not want to create MILLIONS of jobs fro tomorrow?
sure it is hard for an owner of oil pipelines to accept that the world is changing. if he would only be the owner of the pipeline it would not be a problem. but if the same owner is the president of the most powerful nation of the world and able to change laws in favor of his capital it really IS a problem.
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As far as the "Green Energy" vs. fossil fuels debate...I'm not arguing that.
I want solar energy because it SHOULD be free. And the only reason that we DON'T have solar in more abundance is because it IS free.
But now that big companies and the power utilities have figured out a way to make sure that they can keep their recurring billing model by keeping solar panels way over-priced and "renting" the panels with payment plans spread out over 20 years...we are finally starting to see solar energy being used.
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the solar panels are not overprices - they are cheap when they are produces abroad but if you want them being produced by americans you have to pay the price.
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I am certain that the technology is only going to get better and better and better. And that electric cars are the future.
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for sure.
switzerland have voted out the nuclear energy with a majoriy of nearly 60%
BILLIONS will be invested - unfortunately not in USA because they offer coal and oil only.
germany produces in 2016 a total of 74,25 TERRAWATT only with windenergy - the first time more with wind as with nuclear (what will end in a few years anyway completely in germany).
india has opened in kamuthi the biggest solar plant in the world. 2,5 million solar panels are producing 648 Megawatt just from the sun.
the netherland (top position in the world for green energy) will spend in 2017 33% more in renewable energy.
even marokko´s goal is 42% renewable energy til 2020
and this list can go on and on...
and trump wants to save the jobs from 50.000 coalminers.
do you not see how he fools you ?
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Having said all of that, it's still a stupid decision to hurt our own economy and not take advantage of new technology that has enabled us to discover vast reserves of fossil fuel resources that we didn't even know existed 20 years ago.
Also technology that DOES make burning fossil fuels "cleaner" than ever before.
Car emissions are the lowest they've ever been. And every year, more smart people are creating new ways to get faster cars that run more cleanly than the year before.
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i am glad that you are completely normal in that way you think. others than other trump supporters what are in opposite of all what comes from the other side. i appreciate that from you.
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There is no need to have the Federal Govt. put us in global agreements that deliberately hurt our economy in the meantime.
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unfortunately we can not build climate walls. this problem is a global problem and can only be resolved when the whole world is in that.
and if 90% of the whole world agrees in that topic and gives them just this in common it will open doors in between them.
i personally believe that trump will not be that long in the white house that he is able to close this doors to the world. but with every day he is there new contacts and trading deals will be done in between the others.
because fact is that US have NOTHING what other nations do not have. it would be hard but hardest for america if the world would have to replace america.
and they are already in that.
wait a few years and see what happens with exports from countries what are not willing to help against the climate change.
believe me - those countries will not export even a match anymore and than you will see how much america needs the world.