Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Most what Paul M is saying is going on in Europe for years, he isn't saying new things. More and more politicans agree with Paul. Left and right wing parties. Looks to me that Europe hasn't become a thirld world country altough they don't want illegals and refugees.

The discussion about sending out illegals with children is going on in Holland for years. A lot of illegals come in, get pregnant as soon as possible and than get a free lawyer and start proceeding for years (for free). The older the kids get, the more change they could stay. So the lawyers goes on and on and on, costing millions of euros. And than you have the whole cloud of organisations that get more money to support the illegals.

Also the Dutch government (and EU) makes more and more rules so people that come in, can't bring their whole family also. Every year more rules are made to stop them, but lawyers find mazes and keep proceeding (on tax payers cost). Why do you think they make new rules to stop immigration? Would they do that if it brings profit? Or are they making more strict rules because the migrant and refugee problem cost money and bring social problems?

But when Trump says it,some Europeans suddenly see it as bad. If you look at Healthcare in Europe and wellfare, i think Europe is much better than the USA. So why shouldn't they copy it from Europe, including the solution for migration problems.

America is doing what most Europeans countries are doing for many years, protect their people and put EU first. Italy now even hired the maffia to pay the 'refugee' smugglers in Syria so they stop sending more refugees by boat.... We pay Erdogan billions to stop the refugees there so they don't reach Europe. We are making deals now with other african countries to keep the migrants out. Ok, it is not a wall, but it works the same... In Hungary they actualy built a wall to keep people out... You can say thet the Brexit also happened cause of the migration problems. Many countries want less immigration. But it is popular to be against everything that Trump says.

Some people here are realy brainwashed, profit from what the EU gave them, but want to see other countries making the mistakes we try to tackle in Europe. Thinking they are smarter than all the governments in Europe.