An update on this outgoing situation ...
I contacted 3 times Joker.com ( the registrar ) by email and got no answer
I did NOT re-contact domains-manager.com .
I go today to pay that fee to get the domain out of there , but now I get this :
I just emailed them , but this situation is ridicilous . If it is not adressed , I will have to go to Icann.
All this for a domain....