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  • 2MuchMark
    Mark of 2Much.net
    • Aug 2004
    • 50990

    #1

    Question for Bitcoin Gurus

    Is there bitcoin mining software that can run on Linux, and that will see and take advantage of all available GPU's in addition to using all of the CPU Cores?
  • pimpmaster9000
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2011
    • 26732

    #2
    Mining BTC with GPU is throwing money out the window...
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    • JFK
      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
      • Jan 2002
      • 67373

      #3
      Originally posted by crucifissio
      Mining BTC with GPU is throwing money out the window...
      is buying Btc as well ?

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      • rowan
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2002
        • 17393

        #4
        Originally posted by 2MuchMark
        Is there bitcoin mining software that can run on Linux, and that will see and take advantage of all available GPU's in addition to using all of the CPU Cores?
        Is it 2010?

        If so, the answer is YES!

        You can mine Bitcoin on a GPU, but you'll spend a shitload in electricity to make a few cents that you won't even be able to use (a typical transaction now costs a few dollars in fees). Custom ASICs took over mining several years ago.

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        • rowan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 17393

          #5
          I plugged in 100MH/s (which is a rough rate for a half decent card) into a mining calculator and got back 0.00000002 BTC/day

          That's approximately one one-hundredth of a cent.

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          • PornDude
            I'm still broke.
            • Jul 2008
            • 3084

            #6
            Mining bitcoin = money wasting.

            Unless you get free electricity.
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            • Spunky
              I need a beer
              • Jun 2002
              • 133986

              #7
              It will never work

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              • Sarn
                WW3
                • Sep 2015
                • 12405

                #8
                Arch: pacman -S bfgminer
                Debian: aptitude install bfgminer
                Gentoo: emerge bfgminer
                OpenWrt: opkg repository for 15.05
                Ubuntu: apt-get install bfgminer
                BFGMiner - a modular ASIC/FPGA Bitcoin miner
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                • gnawledge
                  confirmed loser
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1092

                  #9
                  Believe it or not it is a waste of electricity. You should just buy small dollar amounts at a time, or just say fuck it.

                  Bitcointalk has a lot of information. But unless you use a solar panel to a machine or computer it?s a waste.
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                  • rowan
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 17393

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PikaPoka
                    Mining bitcoin = money wasting.

                    Unless you get free electricity.
                    Mining with a GPU is still pointless even when it's 'free'. You'd be lucky to make a dollar after a year of going flat out. I guess if the winters are cold, it will warm your house.......

                    With the value of BTC going up significantly in the past 6 months the cost of acquiring dedicated equipment (if you can even find it for sale) has also increased. There's really no point making a capital investment then waiting for months just to break even (hopefully) as you use it to mine. May as well just buy and hold BTC.

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                    • CoolMikey
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 174

                      #11
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                      • Ferus
                        Bye - Left to do stuff
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 4108

                        #12
                        Even with the fastest computer, it will be a HUGE waste of money. Mining one bitcoin with just a PC now takes millions of years. You'll want a 1 TH/s or faster ASIC machine to start a small mining-at-home operation. -- so NO, never use a PC, no matter how much hardware you have.

                        You may buy miners here https://www.ebay.com/sch/Miners/179171/i.html
                        But its not worth it.

                        I trade my bitcoin (and other values) on https://www.etoro.com instead.

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                        • 2MuchMark
                          Mark of 2Much.net
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 50990

                          #13
                          Hi everyone, Thanks for the advice.

                          I have a couple of super-fast PC's with NVIDIA graphics cards left over from a previous project that so far generated about $1.59USD Per Day each. I'm thinking they are running slowly thanks to Windows 10 on each machine, and that switching to Linux might be more efficient. I could also add more GPU's too but I think Windows might be a serious hog in this setup.

                          I also have some servers sitting in a rack at our colocation and was thinking about running BTC mining software on them, but they don't have GPU's. I pay a flat rate for electricity there so I want to put those machines to use, but didn't think it would do anything if they didn't have GPU's. So, does modern BTC mining software not care (much) for machines without GPU's anymore?

                          I'm thinking about buying some ASIC's but I'm not ready to take the plunge yet. I'l still experimenting.

                          And of course its easier to make money buying & selling than just mining. I'm mostly just playing with it right now.

                          Cheers!

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                          • Ferus
                            Bye - Left to do stuff
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 4108

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                            Hi everyone, Thanks for the advice.

                            I have a couple of super-fast PC's with NVIDEA graphics cards left over from a previous project that so far generated about $1.59USD Per Day each. I'm thinking they are running slowly thanks to Windows 10 on each machine, and that switching to Linux might be more efficient. I could also add more GPU's too but I think Windows might be a serious hog in this setup.

                            I also have some servers sitting in a rack at our colocation and was thinking about running BTC mining software on them, but they don't have GPU's. I pay a flat rate for electricity there so I want to put those machines to use, but didn't think it would do anything if they didn't have GPU's. So, does modern BTC mining software not care (much) for machines without GPU's anymore?

                            I'm thinking about buying some ASIC's but I'm not ready to take the plunge yet. I'l still experimenting.

                            And of course its easier to make money buying & selling than just mining. I'm mostly just playing with it right now.

                            Cheers!
                            I would rather sell the used hardware, than trying to make money from mining with it.

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                            • rowan
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 17393

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                              I have a couple of super-fast PC's with NVIDIA graphics cards left over from a previous project that so far generated about $1.59USD Per Day each.
                              This doesn't sound right. Are you sure you're mining Bitcoin? As per above you would be lucky to make a fraction of one cent per day when mining Bitcoin with a typical GPU.

                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                              So, does modern BTC mining software not care (much) for machines without GPU's anymore?
                              CPU mining Bitcoin was only viable when it first started. GPUs took over once it gained more appeal.

                              CPU -> GPU -> FPGA -> ASIC

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                              • rowan
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 17393

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ferus
                                I would rather sell the used hardware, than trying to make money from mining with it.
                                I switched off my scrypt miner in 2015 when the value it was mining was close to the cost of electricity.

                                I thought about selling it at the time, but then decided I'd keep it. Very glad I did, because I switched it back on a few months ago, and it's since netted me several thousand bucks more.

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                                • Sarn
                                  WW3
                                  • Sep 2015
                                  • 12405

                                  #17
                                  For CPU can install this and choice altcoin
                                  https://minergate.com/
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                                  • pimpmaster9000
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Dec 2011
                                    • 26732

                                    #18
                                    ASIC miners are a scam IMO...why would they sell them instead of using them? Sounds fishy to me...
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                                    • 2MuchMark
                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 50990

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                      This doesn't sound right. Are you sure you're mining Bitcoin? As per above you would be lucky to make a fraction of one cent per day when mining Bitcoin with a typical GPU.
                                      Yup!



                                      I just turned the machine on last night at around this same time yesterday, but had to turn it off for about an hour while I got VNC working. (Now I have a new problem. The stupid computer won't boot-up without a monitor connected. Frack).

                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                      I switched off my scrypt miner in 2015 when the value it was mining was close to the cost of electricity.

                                      I thought about selling it at the time, but then decided I'd keep it. Very glad I did, because I switched it back on a few months ago, and it's since netted me several thousand bucks more.
                                      Correct. Maybe at the time the value of Bitcoins was much lower, so mining even on a super-fast ASIC wasn't terribly interesting. Today though its another story, hence my interest.


                                      Originally posted by Sarn
                                      For CPU can install this and choice altcoin
                                      https://minergate.com/
                                      Was checking them out. Looks interesting!


                                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                                      ASIC miners are a scam IMO...why would they sell them instead of using them? Sounds fishy to me...
                                      They probably are, but maybe they just run out of space and or resources. That many machines requires a ton of power, a ton of AC, etc etc. Plus, why limit themselves to just using the machines themslves?

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                                      • mineistaken
                                        See signature :)
                                        • Apr 2007
                                        • 29656

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by gnawledge
                                        Believe it or not it is a waste of electricity. You should just buy small dollar amounts at a time, or just say fuck it.

                                        Bitcointalk has a lot of information. But unless you use a solar panel to a machine or computer it?s a waste.
                                        is solar now the cheapest energy?

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                                        • rowan
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 17393

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                          That looks like a multipool which pays out in BTC. You're actually mining another coin - and the choice of coin can change depending on its value - then they sell it on an exchange and give you BTC. So yeah, it's almost always more profitable to mine something besides Bitcoin. Question is, are you still breaking even?

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                                          • JohnnyPearl
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 425

                                            #22
                                            Just buy Antminer S9. Here in Quebec with the current price for electricity and 5700$ US for a bitcoin, you'll make about 0.0025 Bitcoin a day per machine. Any other way is not worth the time or power.

                                            Check this link out for more info on your setup https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining...n=&CostPerkWh=

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                                            • rowan
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 17393

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JohnnyPearl
                                              Just buy Antminer S9. Here in Quebec with the current price for electricity and 5700$ US for a bitcoin, you'll make about 0.0025 Bitcoin a day per machine. Any other way is not worth the time or power.

                                              Check this link out for more info on your setup https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining...n=&CostPerkWh=
                                              4730 TH/s?

                                              The problem with buying dedicated hardware, especially as a retail amateur, is that it will take some time to break even. Some rough calcs suggest at least 6-8 months at current value to pay back the purchase price of an S9, and over that time difficulty is likely to increase, so the payback could be heading more towards a year. By then your equipment is almost obsolete and you have to start the cycle over.

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                                              • freecartoonporn
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2012
                                                • 7683

                                                #24
                                                if you are new to mining and dont want to invest in hardware and fix numerous issues.,

                                                then your best bet is get cloudminnig contract.
                                                or
                                                buy btc directly.
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                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 50990

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                                  That looks like a multipool which pays out in BTC. You're actually mining another coin - and the choice of coin can change depending on its value - then they sell it on an exchange and give you BTC. So yeah, it's almost always more profitable to mine something besides Bitcoin. Question is, are you still breaking even?
                                                  I have no idea - right now I'm just playing with all of this stuff.


                                                  Originally posted by JohnnyPearl
                                                  Just buy Antminer S9. Here in Quebec with the current price for electricity and 5700$ US for a bitcoin, you'll make about 0.0025 Bitcoin a day per machine. Any other way is not worth the time or power.
                                                  I was thinking about that. I'm in Quebec too so electricity is nice and cheap thats for sure. The main problem I have with this machine is the noise and heat it seems like it produces, at least that's what I saw on Youtube.


                                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                                  4730 TH/s?

                                                  The problem with buying dedicated hardware, especially as a retail amateur, is that it will take some time to break even. Some rough calcs suggest at least 6-8 months at current value to pay back the purchase price of an S9, and over that time difficulty is likely to increase, so the payback could be heading more towards a year. By then your equipment is almost obsolete and you have to start the cycle over.
                                                  That's right, but there are people out there who are interested in buying smaller or out of date units too... except that I don't think they will work. As BTC becomes more complex it becomes harder to mine, so ever-faster machines will be required. Even worse, anyone who buys the old machines is just wasting their money unless they get a fast one dirt-cheap.

                                                  Originally posted by freecartoonporn
                                                  if you are new to mining and dont want to invest in hardware and fix numerous issues.,

                                                  then your best bet is get cloudminnig contract.
                                                  or
                                                  buy btc directly.
                                                  I've been testing a cloud mining setup too. Super easy to get started, but pricey. ($279 gets you only 150 H/s which is less than what I have running on one of my old desktops right now. I'm just a beginner but it looks like you have to have some serious money and spread it out across a few different products in order to have it work. Of course I could be wrong... I probably am.

                                                  But yes by far the best way to make money in BTC is to just buy and sell. BTC's up 4.2% since yesterday. Amazing.

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                                                  • NickBaer
                                                    Nick Baer
                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                    • 1393

                                                    #26
                                                    There's plenty of "Mining" sites, offering payouts like 10% per day. They may or may not be Ponzis, but invest what you are comfortable with risking (your "investment" is "forever" but never itself returned), and withdraw as often as your daily earnings allow.

                                                    At 10% per day, that "never returned" investment is already earned back in 10 days. At 3% per day, that "never returned" investment is already earned back in 30 days.

                                                    If the site lasts longer, thus the definition of "forever," you're swimming in BitCoin gravy.

                                                    There's plenty of younger, but older, guys who run Mining sites that you can "invest" in. Get in early, watch every day- get earnings out early, and often.

                                                    "Mining" also rides the wave of hourly fluctuations in BitCoin Buy/Sell rates. There's also "IPOs" to watch for, "Trading" sites, "Margin" sites. There's more to AltCoins that just buying and selling.

                                                    As for IPOs: a recent ad campaign stated if you had bought $5(USD) of BitCoins in 2010, that $5 would now be worth $5 million+. Thus, spending $5/£5/?5/5CAD on a new Coin, would not be against history.
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                                                    • asklaurine
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Dec 2014
                                                      • 25

                                                      #27
                                                      As many others from here i can tell you that you can. Using GPUs can do that but you need cooling systems and free energy source😃

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                                                      • adultchatpay
                                                        Let's Make Money
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 8785

                                                        #28
                                                        Bitcoin mining is interesting.

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                                                        • Sarn
                                                          WW3
                                                          • Sep 2015
                                                          • 12405

                                                          #29
                                                          nicehash, as I know, take % from earning and mining pool altcoins through include inside other miners. some that miners have viruses(antivirus avast detected ).
                                                          need to try use direct miner
                                                          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826901.0
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                                                          • JohnnyPearl
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 425

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                            I was thinking about that. I'm in Quebec too so electricity is nice and cheap thats for sure. The main problem I have with this machine is the noise and heat it seems like it produces, at least that's what I saw on Youtube
                                                            I can tell your personally that it produces heat. When I enter my mining room I have to be in my underwears lol!! The noise you hear is the sound of money so I don?t mine hearing it. Plus if I don?t hear them, then I know I have a problem.

                                                            Check out AntPool and Slushpool for mining pools. They seem to be the best in my opinion. If you want to buy and sell bitcoins in Canada check out quadrigacx.com

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                                                            • 2MuchMark
                                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 50990

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JohnnyPearl
                                                              I can tell your personally that it produces heat. When I enter my mining room I have to be in my underwears lol!! The noise you hear is the sound of money so I don?t mine hearing it. Plus if I don?t hear them, then I know I have a problem.

                                                              Check out AntPool and Slushpool for mining pools. They seem to be the best in my opinion. If you want to buy and sell bitcoins in Canada check out quadrigacx.com

                                                              Thanks JP!

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                                                              • mineistaken
                                                                See signature :)
                                                                • Apr 2007
                                                                • 29656

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NickBaer
                                                                There's plenty of "Mining" sites, offering payouts like 10% per day. They may or may not be Ponzis
                                                                Yeah, may not be ponzis. Because they certainly could earn much more than 10% daily themselves, thus giving 10% is good business for them.

                                                                Lol

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                                                                  #33
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