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Originally Posted by crockett
#1 ) I've seen many of you accuse the FBI of plotting aginst Trump and trying to villify them as has right wing media. Usually the rational is claims some FBI agent liked Hillary or claims that things like the dossier is fake because someone in the DNC paid for it and so on..
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Republicans can say whatever they want about the dossier. It was originally started by Republicans. There is nothing wrong, illegal, or even immoral about it. It's opposition research. Everyone in the political arena does this.
In this case, the opposition research turned up some alarming information which was then reported to the FBI. Again, nothing wrong about this at all.
When combined with other information - including information from other governments - it was decided to open up an investigation. It would have been criminal not to.
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Originally Posted by crockett
Why do you not hold Devin Nunes and Jeff Sessions to that same standard? Why is it ok to have Trump using the DOJ to interfere with the FBI investigation and why don't you call for Nunes to be removed as part of the investigation when he was part of Trump's team..
Seems you guys are supporting a double standard here so explain why the same rules should not apply to your guys that you expect applied to everyone else?
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When the Republicans are attacking Democrats for political reasons, it's perfectly acceptable. Now that the shoe is on the other foot it's not acceptable.
You want a double standard? I'll give you one right here on GFY. Vendzilla. When Obama was in office and unemployment was dropping every month, Vendzilla wanted to have conversations about the "true" unemployment rate. Now that Trump is in office he is praising the black unemployment rate. Why isn't Vendzilla discussing the "true" unemployment rate - or better yet, the labor participation rate?
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by crockett
#2) While Obama was president, while Clintion was president, we sat through countless investigations which were obviously politically motivated in my opinion, but once again, let's give you guys the benifit of doubt and assume you really wanted to see if wrong doing was done..
Why now the sudden change of heart? Why are you guys so scared of the FBI investigation into Russia interfering in our election? Why not just let it run its course like Clintion did with the Kenneth Star investigations and Obama did with the countless Benghazi investigations? Again why not hold yourselves to the same rules you thought others needed to be held to?
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The investigations into Hillary Clinton were obviously politically motivated.
With Benghazi there was nothing done wrong by anyone. In fact, there was never even a discussion about a certain crime or violation of the constitution. Remember that woman who lost their son screaming at Hillary Clinton on camera? NOTHING we could have done would have changed the outcome. NOTHING. We had a Marine quick reaction force in Italy, but by the time they could have had boots on the ground it would have been all over - the only end result would have been more Americans in harm's way not to mention we would have invaded another country.
With the email sever there was no crime committed at all. There is no law that says the Secretary of State cannot pass classified information via a private email server. Not only is it not illegal, it was very common. Not only did two former Republican Secretaries of State use this similar set ups, but also current Congressmen at the time. Why didn't we investigate anyone else?
A dozen investigations and no charges against Hillary Clinton - yet they still call her "crooked". And we have having yet another investigation into this.
This is just stunning. How can anyone claim to be a patriot and wearing a flag lapel on their suit and not demand a full investigation into potential collusion with the Russian government? Better yet, why aren't Republicans demanding a full investigation into the Russian government interfering with our election? Why isn't this a top priority for everyone in our government?
This isn't a Republican vs Democrat thing for me. The person I wanted to vote for was Republican, but in the end it I vote for "anyone other than Trump". I loved Reagan, I supported both Bushes; I would have walked through the gates of hell for President Bush after 9/11. I want my government to stop launching investigations that everyone knows is pure bullshit. At the same time I want to know what happened there. We had a dozen investigations into Hillary Clinton - why can't we have one investigation into what happened here?
What are we afraid of?
Does the Republican party really think it can take on the FBI? The FBI can decide to open up an investigation against Nunes any time it wants. They can start filing subpoenas and start hauling people in for questioning; They can collect every single email Nunes ever saw or wrote. The FBI will bury them. The president has always feared the FBI since the days of J. Edgar Hoover exactly for this reason.
Eventually we will have a Democratic president in office - and we will surely have more investigations into this. The truth will come out.