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Old 02-04-2018, 11:37 PM  
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Originally Posted by VRPdommy View Post
I might want to correct your thinking on this.
The key here is to break the chain of evidence and witnesses.
So while Papadopoulos and Manafort are still waiting on proper court, pleading not guilty, on the hopes trump can stop this.
If the Republicans could get the surveillance in question discredited, the evidence against them goes out the window. And perhaps ties to Trump. Even if Trump has no culpability in any of the Russia stuff, it looks as if he is culpable for Obstruction.

But Flynn was under investigation of the NSA and Page and others under investigation with the FBI years before Trump ran for POTUS. The campaign actually tied them up together in a neat little bow. Adding more credence to the investigation.

As long as nobody is only convicted in the court of public opinion, I'm happy to hear those that would want to throw it all out on a few misleading and/or incorrect facts.
It's just not going to change much.
Eventually, the real case will be presented with real evidence and not hearsay.


Wishful thinking... It is more a play to have public support for doing things that they should not be attempting in the near term. The Republicans, lead only by some, want to create enough disbelief to make it through the next election should Mueller investigation run that long. We have been told he is not the kinda guy that would want to end this at election time so it is either in the next 3-6 months or after the mid-term election.

Many republicans are to be dammed either way. If they talk anything against trump, they 'may' face a backlash from voters in their districts. So you can see the most vocal are those that had heavy support for trump last election.

But what worries me is these boneheads are likely to inspire riots soon enough even if that is not their intent.
You know much of this looking very familiar with a era we call McCarthyism.
There are no hopes that Trump can stop this - meaning the charges against Papadopoulos and Manafort. This would mean Trump would need to pardon them before he is impeached, which is highly unlikely. Also, Papadopoulos has already put in a guilty plea (and has flipped).

They can try to discredit this as much as they want. This only plays to their base. Everything Nunes said in his so called "memo" is either already known or utterly fake. For example, Nunes claims in the FISA warrant it was not mentioned that the dossier came from a political source while the Democrats say it was. Who are you going to believe - A Congressman who has to recuse himself from the investigation because of his past actions and involvement with the Trump campaign, or a Democrat who is not under investigation?

I can't wait for this to be over. You know heads are going to roll no matter what. You know they are going through Trump's business deals and turning up all kinds of shit - You have to know this.
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