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Originally Posted by thommy View Post
of course - there have been a few changes and each one has been based on the idea of what the founding fathers wanted to accomplish.

in the case of the 2nd amendment you do not even have to go that far and just take a look at what's in the original text.

I do not know where the opinion comes from the 2nd Amendment would give the civilian individual the right to carry weapons. this is not what the 2nd amendment say because in the original text is written:



now lets ask the oxford dictionary what the "militia" means.

so i think we can agree that a militia is not an individual person, ok ?

the reasons for such a civil defense were probably that there was no real united America at that time and the aftermath of the civil war was still too fresh.
since this militia did not exist as an institution, there was nothing left but to raise the civilian population to this rank.

but this gap of the missing militia was later filled by the national guard.
if the national guard had already existed at this time, the 2 constitutional amendment would have referred precisely to this militia.

if a sheriff makes you a helper today and say "watch 'til I'm back" then you will have to return the sheriff star and the service pistol after his return

of course, the sight of this fact has just been prevented by the powerful ones who make hundreds of billions of dollars a year and who think so immoral that even a gunman is used as an advertisement to sell more weapons.

anyone who closes their eyes to this logic takes nothing more than his right to stupidity because he is led astray with false arguments
Well the REAL problem is we have this corrupt branch of Gov't in the US called the Supreme Court. THEY are the ones who interpret the Constitution (and the 2nd Amendment specifically) and have upheld a lot of illogical, ridiculous things, like:

* 2nd Amendment means ANYONE (and everyone) can own a gun. Period. (Wrong)
* Money is "free speech". (Wrong)
* A Corporation has the same rights as individual human beings. (Wrong)
* They would allow the vote to stop being counted in Florida and give the 2000 Election to George W. Bush - but just this one time in this particular case. (Wrong)
* A News organization has no responsibility to tell the truth. (Wrong)

I could go on but you can see how each of these Decisions directly affected American society, and not for the good. So the Supreme Court is flawed and corrupt and keeps the power balance the way they want it.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post

This is an American problem because you keep voting for the people who only listen to you when they want your vote. Then when they get it they only listen to their funders.
This is true in every country. Being British by birth you should know better.
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